<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Career Candour]]></title><description><![CDATA[Unfiltered. Uncensored. Unapologetic. Career advice for the brave.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2Kis!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9712dde5-c7d1-4fd9-998e-c80af000eacb_1024x1024.png</url><title>Career Candour</title><link>https://careercandour.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 05:19:08 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://careercandour.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[careercandour@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[careercandour@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[careercandour@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[careercandour@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[The Salary Conversation You’re Avoiding Is Already Costing You Money]]></title><description><![CDATA[Salary negotiation after 40 carries more emotion, risk and complexity. Avoiding the conversation can cost more than you think.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/salary-conversation-costing-you-money</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/salary-conversation-costing-you-money</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 23:00:54 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1wGp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0edf3bc2-da11-4803-a779-bfea7c1c3206_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!1wGp!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0edf3bc2-da11-4803-a779-bfea7c1c3206_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There&#8217;s a facial expression people make when salary comes up too early.</p><p>You can see it&#8230; even on Zoom. </p><ol><li><p>The jaw tightens. </p></li><li><p>The eyes do a small internal calculation. </p></li><li><p>The voice becomes reasonable in that suspiciously soft way people use when they are trying to sound relaxed.</p></li></ol><p>The recruiter has asked a simple question.</p><p><strong>&#8220;What are your compensation expectations?&#8221;</strong></p><p>And suddenly a senior professional, who has managed budgets, led teams, and handled impossible clients, starts behaving as though they have been invited to commit a minor act of social vandalism.</p><p>&#8220;Well, I&#8217;m really just looking for the right fit.&#8221;</p><p>A beautiful sentence. Mature. But in many cases, financially ruinous.</p><p>Of course they are looking for the right fit. Everyone is looking for the right fit. Nobody is out there saying, &#8220;My dream is to join a toxic circus.&#8221; Fit matters. Culture matters. Purpose matters, or at least the modern workplace has agreed to keep saying that it does.</p><p>But money has a vulgar little habit of continuing to matter after the values conversation ends.</p><p>By mid-career, compensation is no longer just pay. It is insurance. It is recognition. It is freedom. It is the price placed on the version of you that took 20 or 25 years to build.</p><p>Which is exactly why so many people become strangely coy about it.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>The Cost of Sounding Too Flexible</strong></h3><p>The odd thing is that most experienced professionals understand negotiation perfectly well when it belongs to the business.</p><ul><li><p>They have sat in rooms where suppliers were squeezed .</p></li><li><p>They have watched procurement query a line item worth less than the coffee budget. </p></li><li><p>They have seen companies delay decisions, reframe scope, defer costs, and call it all &#8220;commercial discipline.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Then their own salary is on the table and suddenly they become ambassadors for generosity.</p><p>They start considering the employer&#8217;s constraints with touching sincerity. They imagine budget pressures. They empathise with internal equity. They worry about seeming difficult. They pre-emptively reduce the number in their head because somewhere, somehow, they have absorbed the idea that asking clearly for fair compensation is gauche, while being quietly underpaid is a sign of character.</p><p>This is not humility. It is usually fear.</p><p>And fear, in compensation conversations, is an expensive adviser.</p><p>t reminds you that you are not 31 anymore. It suggests that the company probably has other candidates. It points out that you have not interviewed properly in years. It says the role sounds interesting and maybe this is not the moment to push.</p><p>So you become realistic.</p><p>You give a range wide enough to include both your actual expectation and an amount that would eventually make you resentful. You say you are flexible before you have explained what your flexibility costs. You treat a vague promise of future review as if it were a financial instrument with regulatory backing.</p><p>The employer may not even be trying to exploit you. This is the annoying part. There may be no villain. No smoke-filled room. No HR executive stroking a white cat while lowering your base salary by 12 percent.</p><p>There is just a buyer and a seller.</p><p>And if the seller opens by implying the price is negotiable downward, the buyer is unlikely to pause the process and say, &#8220;Actually, before we proceed, I feel ethically compelled to protect you from your own lack of preparation.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190488792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>A &#8220;Great Opportunity&#8221; Is Not Legal Tender</strong></h3><p>A lower offer can be wrapped in very attractive language.</p><ul><li><p>Opportunity. </p></li><li><p>Growth. </p></li><li><p>Platform. </p></li><li><p>Visibility. </p></li><li><p>Scope. </p></li><li><p>Upside. </p></li><li><p>Mission. </p></li><li><p>Access. </p></li><li><p>Future potential.</p></li></ul><p>The corporate vocabulary for &#8220;less money now&#8221; is astonishingly well developed.</p><p>And sometimes the language is true. Some roles really do create a better trajectory. Some pay cuts are deliberate and intelligent. Some people trade salary for health, family, flexibility, location, or learning.</p><p>But those are choices.</p><p>The problem begins when a candidate accepts a financial compromise and then decorates it with meaning after the fact. </p><ul><li><p>The lower base becomes &#8220;strategic.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>The vague bonus becomes &#8220;potential.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>The title becomes &#8220;a platform.&#8221; </p></li></ul><p>At first, everything feels fine. There is a welcome email, a meeting with someone from People, perhaps a branded notebook if the company is feeling lavish. You tell yourself the package is acceptable because the work is interesting and the people seem decent and nobody has yet said &#8220;we&#8217;re like a family,&#8221; which is always a blessing.</p><p>Then the role begins to expand.</p><p>Not dramatically. Scope never kicks the door in wearing a cape. It just starts standing slightly closer each week. A meeting appears that was not mentioned during the process. Then a stakeholder group. Then a strategic project with no resources and an immediate deadline.</p><p>Soon the job is larger than the job you priced.</p><p>That is when the original salary conversation returns. </p><ul><li><p>You notice it when you work late. </p></li><li><p>You notice it when someone praises your impact warmly and without budget implication. </p></li><li><p>You notice it when your calendar fills with responsibilities that appear to belong to someone at the next level, while your pay remains committed to the previous one.</p></li></ul><p>This is how resentment matures.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190488792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>What Makes the Move Worth It?</strong></h3><p>&#8220;Know your worth&#8221; sounds empowering until you have to turn it into a number without suddenly revisiting your entire career.</p><p>Terms are cleaner because they do not require you to prove your entire human value to someone in Talent Acquisition called Sophie who has another screening call in twelve minutes. Terms simply describe the conditions under which the move makes commercial sense.</p><ul><li><p>This is the level of responsibility.</p></li><li><p>This is the risk.</p></li><li><p>This is the market.</p></li><li><p>This is what makes the role worth saying yes to.</p></li></ul><p>That is the conversation.</p><p>The preparation happens before the recruiter asks. That is the part people miss. By the time the question arrives, it is too late to start rummaging through your emotions for a number. You need to have already decided what would make you excited, what would make you comfortable, and what would make you bitter while pretending to be grateful.</p><p>You also need to understand what non-cash benefits are actually worth. Not in the abstract, lifestyle-magazine sense. In actual terms.</p><ul><li><p>Flexibility has value if it is real. </p></li><li><p>Title has value if it changes your market position. </p></li><li><p>Equity has value if it has a credible relationship with reality. </p></li><li><p>A six-month review has value if it is written down, owned by someone specific, and connected to a decision.</p></li></ul><p>This means refusing to drift into life-altering financial decisions because you wanted to seem agreeable on cue.</p><p>There are excellent reasons to accept less money.</p><p>But &#8220;I got nervous and sounded flexible&#8221; is not one of them.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190488792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Good Work Does Not Price Itself</strong></h3><p>Many experienced professionals built careers on being useful, loyal, effective, and low-maintenance.</p><p>They did good work. They solved problems. They made bosses look calm and departments look functional. They became the person people could rely on..</p><p>Somewhere along the way, they assumed the deal was that good work would eventually explain itself.</p><p>It will not.</p><p>The market rewards relevance that is easy to understand. It rewards people who can connect their experience to a problem the buyer already knows they have. It rewards value that has been made legible before the room loses interest or starts worrying about headcount approval.</p><p>That can feel vulgar if you have spent years believing professional value should be self-evident. But self-evident value is mostly a myth told by people who already have sponsorship.</p><p>If you do not frame your value, someone else will frame your cost.</p><p>That is usually where the money goes.</p><p>By the time the offer arrives, much of the negotiation may already be over.</p><p>The salary conversation is not only the moment where numbers are exchanged. It is happening earlier, in how you describe yourself, how clearly you discuss scope, and  how confidently you connect your experience to commercial outcomes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:116584,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190488792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The goal is not to squeeze every employer until coins fall out.</p><p>Sometimes the highest-paying role is the wrong role. Sometimes a smaller package buys back health, time, family stability, geography, autonomy, or freedom from a workplace where every day feels like being trapped.</p><p>Money is not everything.</p><p>But compensation is one of the ways a role tells the truth about itself. It tells you:</p><ul><li><p>How the company values the work. </p></li><li><p>How clearly they understand the level.</p></li><li><p>Whether the responsibility, risk, and reward have been placed in the same room. </p></li><li><p>Whether you are being hired as a serious operator.</p></li></ul><p>So yes, care about the mission. Care about the people. Care about culture, flexibility, learning, autonomy, scope, and whether the office lighting makes everyone look recently unwell.</p><p>But care about the money clearly.</p><p>Avoiding the salary conversation does not keep things tasteful. It hands the pen to someone else.</p><p>And they may write a number you spend the next two years resenting.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://careercandour.com/">Career Candou</a>r we work 1:1 with mid-career professionals to make experience easier to understand and harder to underpay. CVs, LinkedIn, interviews, positioning, salary conversations. The whole thing needs to line up. Want this handled properly? <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leighmckiernon/">DM us</a>.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/salary-conversation-costing-you-money?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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But is that accurate, or are SOE assets being misrepresented?]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/is-danantara-really-a-1-trillion-sovereign-wealth-fund</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/is-danantara-really-a-1-trillion-sovereign-wealth-fund</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2026 23:00:37 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KIZl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5c5c94-f8f0-45db-b635-1c783300fdf9_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KIZl!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c5c5c94-f8f0-45db-b635-1c783300fdf9_1792x1024.png" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There are few things more comforting in modern economic management than the sudden discovery of a trillion dollars.</p><p>One minute, a country is dealing with currency pressure, investor skepticism, governance concerns, and fiscal constraints. The next minute, a senior official announces that the country has <strong>one of the world&#8217;s largest sovereign wealth funds.</strong></p><p>Wonderful. Problem solved. Somebody tell Norway.</p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s Danantara has been described as managing close to or above US$900 billion in assets, with some rhetoric pushing the number toward US$1 trillion. This has then been presented, or at least received, as evidence that Indonesia has created one of the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world. Depending on the version of the claim, it has been suggested that Danantara is the fifth-largest globally.</p><p>There is a version of this story that is defensible. Indonesia has large state-owned enterprises. Those enterprises have big balance sheets. If you place them under one umbrella, you can produce a very large aggregate number. Danantara oversees more than US$900 billion in assets, however its actual near-term investment capacity is far smaller at around US$20 billion, with specific projects in the tens of billions rather than the hundreds.</p><p>But there is also a version of this story that is nonsense.</p><p>The issue is not whether Indonesia should try to reform, consolidate, and professionalize state-owned assets. It absolutely should. The issue is whether Indonesia has suddenly created a sovereign wealth fund comparable to Norway&#8217;s oil fund, Abu Dhabi&#8217;s ADIA, Kuwait&#8217;s KIA, Singapore&#8217;s GIC, China&#8217;s CIC, or Saudi Arabia&#8217;s PIF.</p><p>&#8230;</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>The Magic Trick</h3><p>The confusion is fairly simple: <strong>Danantara appears to be counting assets it supervises, not cash it can freely invest.</strong></p><p>That distinction is everything.</p><p>A sovereign wealth fund is usually understood as a state-owned investment vehicle funded by surplus reserves, commodity windfalls, fiscal surpluses, foreign exchange reserves, privatization proceeds, or accumulated national savings.</p><p>That is the traditional model. </p><ul><li><p>Norway sells oil, saves the proceeds, invests globally, and produces a giant national portfolio. </p></li><li><p>Abu Dhabi, Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia do versions of the same thing with hydrocarbon wealth. </p></li><li><p>Singapore&#8217;s GIC comes from reserves accumulated through decades of fiscal discipline and external surpluses. </p></li><li><p>China&#8217;s CIC and SAFE are tied to large foreign-exchange reserves and balance-of-payments strength.</p></li></ul><p>Some of these institutions are opaque, and politically influenced. Some are more strategic than purely financial. But the broad principle is that <strong>they represent accumulated sovereign capital.</strong></p><p>Danantara is different.</p><p>Danantara is not sitting on a trillion dollars of surplus Indonesian savings. It is a new state asset-management and investment vehicle built around the consolidation of existing SOEs, including major names such as Pertamina, PLN, Telkom, BRI, BNI, Mandiri, and MIND ID.</p><p>That&#8217;s important because rolling existing companies under a new roof does not magically create fresh wealth. But it can improve governance, centralize decision-making, and allow better capital allocation.</p><p>Unfortunately, it does not mean Indonesia now has US$1 trillion of deployable sovereign capital.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>&#8220;Fifth Largest Globally&#8221;</h3><p>Depending on the ranking used, the world&#8217;s largest sovereign wealth funds include </p><ul><li><p>Norway&#8217;s Government Pension Fund Global, </p></li><li><p>China&#8217;s SAFE Investment Company, </p></li><li><p>China Investment Corporation, </p></li><li><p>Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, </p></li><li><p>Kuwait Investment Authority, </p></li><li><p>Singapore&#8217;s GIC, </p></li><li><p>Saudi Arabia&#8217;s Public Investment Fund, </p></li><li><p>Qatar Investment Authority, </p></li><li><p>Hong Kong&#8217;s Exchange Fund, and others. </p></li></ul><p>Public ranking data commonly places Norway well above US$2 trillion, China&#8217;s SAFE and CIC above US$1 trillion, ADIA around or above US$1 trillion, Kuwait around US$1 trillion, and GIC and PIF around the high hundreds of billions.</p><p>So yes, if one accepts Danantara&#8217;s roughly US$900 billion number at face value, it may appear near the global top ten. That is presumably how the &#8220;fifth-largest&#8221; framing emerges.</p><p>But that ranking depends on treating Danantara&#8217;s SOE assets as equivalent to the investable portfolios of established sovereign funds. That is an extremely generous interpretation. </p><p>Norway&#8217;s fund owns listed equities, bonds, real estate, and infrastructure assets around the world. It is funded by petroleum revenues and fiscal transfers. In 2024 Norway&#8217;s fund had reached around US$1.8 trillion, owned about 1.5% of all listed global stocks, and had grown through both oil and gas revenues and market performance.</p><p>That is a sovereign wealth fund.</p><p>Danantara, by contrast, appears to be a holding and investment structure sitting above domestic state-owned enterprises, many of which already existed, already had liabilities, already had minority shareholders, and already had political obligations.</p><p>If Danantara says, &#8220;We supervise a state-owned enterprise universe with nearly US$1 trillion in assets,&#8221; fine. That is a big claim, but at least it sort of describes it.</p><p>If Danantara says, &#8220;We are therefore one of the world&#8217;s largest sovereign wealth funds,&#8221; the appropriate response is: </p><ul><li><p>By what definition? </p></li><li><p>Under what accounting treatment? </p></li><li><p>Using what liquidity assumptions?</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Funding Question</h3><p>Traditional sovereign wealth funds tend not to need outside investors in order to be sovereign. That is kind of the point. They are the outside investors.</p><p>Danantara, meanwhile, has been linked to co-investment structures and external financing. Indonesia and Qatar agreed to create a US$4 billion joint fund, with each side contributing US$2 billion.</p><p>Co-investment does not automatically disqualify an institution from being sovereign or strategic. Many legitimate SWFs co-invest. They partner with private equity firms, pension funds, infrastructure funds, and other states. That is normal.</p><p>But, if the country has just created a trillion-dollar sovereign wealth fund:</p><ul><li><p>Why is the actual investment program measured in billions, not hundreds of billions? </p></li><li><p>Why does it need co-investors for relatively modest pools of capital? </p></li><li><p>Why are project announcements in the US$7 billion or US$36.7 billion range rather than at the scale implied by the trillion-dollar headline? </p></li></ul><p>Again, US$36.7 billion is not small. It is serious money.</p><p>But it is not US$1 trillion.</p><p>And this is where Indonesia so often gets itself into trouble. The underlying opportunity is real, but the presentation inflates it into something grander, shinier, and less believable.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Listed SOE Problem</h3><p>One of the most important issues is that many of Indonesia&#8217;s strongest SOEs are not wholly owned private toys of the state. They are publicly listed companies with minority shareholders.</p><p>Banks such as BRI, Mandiri, and BNI matter enormously to Indonesia&#8217;s economy. So does Telkom. These are listed companies with market valuations, boards, shareholders, disclosures, regulatory obligations, and investor expectations.</p><p>So when people talk casually about Danantara &#8220;having&#8221; these assets, we need to slow down.</p><p>What exactly does &#8220;having&#8221; mean?</p><ul><li><p>Does Danantara own the state&#8217;s shares?</p></li><li><p>Does it control governance?</p></li><li><p>Can it direct dividends?</p></li><li><p>Can it pledge shares?</p></li><li><p>Can it borrow against them?</p></li><li><p>Can it force mergers?</p></li><li><p>Can it redirect corporate strategy?</p></li><li><p>Can it treat market-listed companies as collateral for state projects?</p></li><li><p>What happens to minority shareholders?</p></li><li><p>What happens to bank capital adequacy?</p></li><li><p>What happens if strategic national goals conflict with commercial returns?</p></li></ul><p>These are the questions that determine whether Danantara becomes a professional value-creation institution or a very large machine for moving risk around the state balance sheet while calling it transformation.</p><p>If Danantara&#8217;s mandate is to modernize SOEs, improve governance, reduce duplication, professionalize investment decisions, and consolidate fragmented state ownership, that&#8217;s great. In fact, it is probably overdue.</p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s SOE universe has long needed discipline.</p><p>A well-designed Danantara could help.</p><p>But if Danantara becomes a vehicle to extract, pledge, direct, or politically deploy the perceived balance-sheet strength of listed SOEs, that is a very different story. That is no longer sovereign wealth management.</p><p>Investors may not understand every internal political signal in Jakarta, but they do understand when state companies are used as fiscal shock absorbers, and when &#8220;strategic&#8221; starts to sound like &#8220;please ignore the return profile.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Real Damage</h3><p>Foreign investors already understand the Indonesia story. They have heard it for years. Many of them have believed it. Some still do.</p><ul><li><p>Large population. </p></li><li><p>Young workforce. </p></li><li><p>Growing middle class. </p></li><li><p>Natural resources. </p></li><li><p>Nickel. EV supply chain. </p></li><li><p>Digital economy. </p></li><li><p>Infrastructure gap. </p></li><li><p>ASEAN scale. </p></li><li><p>Strategic location. </p></li><li><p>Domestic consumption. </p></li><li><p>Underpenetrated financial services. </p></li><li><p>A country too big to ignore.</p></li></ul><p>This pitch has been made in conference rooms from Singapore to London to New York with enough frequency that entire generations of analysts have grown up, had children, and moved into private credit while waiting for the execution to catch up.</p><p>The issue it not awareness. It&#8217;s trust.</p><p>Investors do not need Indonesia to tell them it is big. They know. They need Indonesia to show that rules are stable, contracts are respected, corruption is contained, minority shareholders are protected, policy is predictable, bureaucracy is navigable, taxes are not changed by ambush, and capital can enter and exit cleanly.</p><p>This is where the &#8220;US$1 trillion SWF&#8221; rhetoric becomes counterproductive.</p><p>Domestically, it may create optimism. It may help sell the idea that Indonesia is finally taking charge of its own economic destiny, and reinforce a political narrative of national strength.</p><p>But serious foreign investors are not isolated in a cabin in the woods, reading only footnotes from annual reports by candlelight. They see the same speeches. They read the same headlines. They compare the claims with the numbers. They ask advisers.</p><p>If the headline is exaggerated, they become more cautious.</p><p>That matters because Indonesia has already developed a reputation among certain investors for overpromising and underdelivering. </p><ul><li><p>Big announcements. </p></li><li><p>Big ambitions. </p></li><li><p>Big ceremonies. </p></li><li><p>Big targets. </p></li></ul><p>Then delays, policy reversals, bottlenecks, regulatory confusion, corruption concerns, currency weakness, and a request to be patient because the next phase will definitely be different.</p><p>This is the slow erosion problem.</p><p>Every inflated claim forces the next claim to work harder. </p><p>And when the currency is under pressure, that credibility premium becomes very expensive.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:116584,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196985997?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Danantara does not have to be fake to be oversold.</p><p>It can be a real institution. It can be useful, and improve Indonesia&#8217;s state-capital allocation. It can create long-term value.</p><p>But:</p><ul><li><p>It cannot become Norway overnight.</p></li><li><p>It cannot become Abu Dhabi by reclassification.</p></li><li><p>It cannot become Singapore via press conference.</p></li></ul><p>And it cannot become a trillion-dollar sovereign wealth fund simply because existing SOE balance sheets have been gathered into a national holding structure and confidently presented.</p><p>The better argument for Danantara is that Indonesia has too many valuable state-linked assets managed too unevenly, and a more disciplined central institution could improve outcomes. That is a serious proposition.</p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s challenge is a shortage of executed outcomes large enough to make narratives unnecessary.</p><p>Danantara should be judged by what it delivers. Not by the largest possible number someone can assemble from the national asset cupboard.</p><p>Because if Indonesia wants real local and international trust, the solution is smaller claims, better execution, and numbers that pass the smell test.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> provides Indonesia-focused advisory and leadership intelligence for investors that need to understand what is really moving beneath the surface. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> for better visibility before making your next move in Indonesia.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/is-danantara-really-a-1-trillion-sovereign-wealth-fund?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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The answer may lie in class, networks, and myth.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/gibran-nadiem-politics-public-sympathy</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/gibran-nadiem-politics-public-sympathy</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2026 23:01:01 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NdDc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F649a996d-a521-4de7-8e76-cbb5dfed8284_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!NdDc!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F649a996d-a521-4de7-8e76-cbb5dfed8284_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>In any public scandal, there&#8217;s a moment when the facts are still being argued over, and yet the public has already decided what kind of story it wants to tell.</p><p>That is the moment worth examining here.</p><ul><li><p>Not the legal case against Gibran Huzaifah. </p></li><li><p>Not the legal case against Nadiem Makarim. </p></li><li><p>Not whether one is guilty, whether the other is innocent, and whether prosecutors have overreached.</p></li></ul><p>Those are important questions, but they belong to formal processes, and evidence.</p><p>This is about something more revealing: <strong>the public imagination</strong>.</p><p>Because the way these two cases have been received feels strikingly different. The eFishery case seemed to settle quickly: </p><ul><li><p>Founder scandal. </p></li><li><p>Inflated numbers. </p></li><li><p>Investors misled. </p></li><li><p>Governance failure. </p></li><li><p>Another Indonesian startup story gone sideways.</p></li></ul><p>With Nadiem, the reaction has been more unsettled. The allegations are serious, but the public conversation around him has been far less straightforward. Even now, many people speak about the case as though the real story must be hidden behind the visible one. They wonder:</p><ul><li><p>Whether he is being scapegoated, </p></li><li><p>Whether this is political, </p></li><li><p>Whether policy decisions are being criminalised, </p></li><li><p>Whether an ambitious reformer has been dragged into something larger than himself.</p></li></ul><p>And maybe some of that is reasonable. Heck, maybe all of it deserves to be considered. But then we arrive at an important question:</p><p><strong>Why does this instinct appear so unevenly?</strong></p><p>That is where the comparison becomes interesting, because while the cases don&#8217;t belong in the same legal box, it&#8217;s imperative that we ask why the public seems so willing to imagine complexity around one figure, while showing much less appetite for it around the other.</p><p>There is probably no single answer. But the disparity is difficult to ignore.</p><p>And if there is a useful question here, it is not whether Nadiem deserves defenders. Of course he does. Anyone facing serious accusations deserves a defence. The more uncomfortable question is why some people receive public doubt as a courtesy, while others are only granted it after a verdict.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>The Problem With an Easy Villain</h3><p>The eFishery scandal arrived with narrative efficiency. Even people who had not followed the company closely could understand it. A high-growth startup, once celebrated as a symbol of Indonesian innovation, was suddenly associated with alleged financial manipulation, inflated performance, and a founder whose name became shorthand for the whole mess.</p><p>It was a story the public already knew how to consume.</p><p>That does not mean the public understood it deeply. In fact, the speed with which a scandal becomes understandable is often the first sign that nobody is really trying very hard. A neat villain saves everyone a lot of effort. The ecosystem can shake its head, call for better governance, and pretend that the lesson has been learned without asking why so many people seemed perfectly happy with the story while the valuation was still going up.</p><p>Gibran offered the market something it badly needed: a human container for collective embarrassment.</p><p>If the problem was simply him, then the wider ecosystem could remain mostly intact. The Indonesian startup scene could hold a tasteful moment of silence and then get back to discussing whatever vertical currently allows the phrase &#8220;underserved communities&#8221; to travel safely through a pitch deck.</p><p>But the harder version of the story asks whether a company can allegedly construct a distorted reality over time without a wider set of incentives helping that distortion survive, and whether people who claim to value transparency are always equally interested in it when transparency might interrupt forward motion.</p><p>Those questions are not as satisfying as blaming one founder.</p><p>Once the public has decided that the founder is the explanation, it no longer needs to examine the conditions that made the explanation possible. The scandal becomes a morality tale, and morality tales are much easier to digest than ecosystem failures.</p><p>Gibran may have deserved much of the scrutiny he received. That is not the point. The point is that the scrutiny seemed to become certainty with remarkable speed. There was little visible public romance around the idea that he might be a pawn, a scapegoat, or an tragic symbol of something larger.</p><p>Perhaps because the evidence appeared more concrete. Or perhaps because he did not represent the right kind of dream.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Nadiem as More Than a Defendant</h3><p>Nadiem&#8217;s public image was always larger than the man himself. That is partly his achievement and partly his problem.</p><p>For years, he represented a certain fantasy of Indonesian modernity. He was the founder who built something people actually used, then crossed into government carrying the promise that private-sector competence might survive contact with bureaucracy. To a particular professional class, this mattered. Nadiem was evidence that Indonesia could produce globally fluent, reform-minded, execution-oriented leadership without waiting for the old political machinery to regenerate itself.</p><p>This is why the Chromebook case feels, for many people, emotionally different from a normal corruption story. When someone like Nadiem is accused, the allegation lands on a larger belief system. It unsettles people who had invested in the idea that a new kind of modern, rational, technocratic Indonesian leader had arrived.</p><p>That belief was always doing a lot of work.</p><p>It allowed people to imagine that the problem with government was mostly competence rather than power, and suggested that the right kind of founder, placed inside the state, could drag public institutions toward better outcomes through focus, data, and impatience with nonsense.</p><p>So when Nadiem is accused, many supporters don&#8217;t ask whether the allegations are true. They ask what it would mean if they were. That is a very different psychological starting point.</p><p>A person can be defended in court. But a symbol has to be defended in public.</p><p>There is a strong instinct among many of his defenders to widen the frame. They want to talk about political motives, prosecutorial overreach, policy risk, and the difference between bad decisions and criminal intent. Some of these questions may be essential.</p><p>But the contrast is still revealing.</p><p>With Nadiem, complexity appears almost immediately. </p><ul><li><p>People reach for context before the dust has settled. </p></li><li><p>They are careful, or at least more careful. </p></li><li><p>They talk about the implications. </p></li><li><p>They speak as though the visible case might be the surface expression of deeper institutional forces.</p></li></ul><p>And that may be right.</p><p>But the most revealing phrase in this situation is that: <strong>he is not that kind of person.</strong></p><p>This is a dangerous sentence because it comes from familiarity. People believe they know the type of person who does certain things, and Nadiem does not fit that picture. He is too educated, too successful, too polished, too associated with reform, too close to the aspirational self-image of the people defending him.</p><p>Again, that does not mean he is guilty. It means the public defence of him is operating inside a social world that recognises him.</p><p>And recognition is powerful, because it opens space for alternative explanations, and gives the accused person an interior life before the public has even read the charge sheet properly.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Who Gets Nuance?</h3><p>The word &#8220;class&#8221; can make this conversation too crude if it is used lazily. It conjures up a cartoon version of bias, as though Indonesia&#8217;s professional elite gathered in a private room and decided, that Nadiem would receive nuance while Gibran would receive consequences.</p><p>Sadly, real life is rarely that theatrical.</p><p>Class does not need to announce itself because it works through instinct, and the confidence people feel when they recognise one of their own.</p><ul><li><p>It shows in the speed with which someone&#8217;s character is defended, </p></li><li><p>It comes out in the assumption that there must be another explanation, </p></li><li><p>It appears when people who are normally very firm about accountability suddenly become philosophers of procedural fairness.</p></li></ul><p>The question is why it arrives so reliably for some and so late for others.</p><p>Public nuance has a distribution problem. It tends to gather around people with the right networks, the right education, and the right social proximity. It gathers around people whose downfall would embarrass not only themselves but also the people who believed in them.</p><p>Nadiem&#8217;s defenders often appear to be defending a worldview in which people like him are meant to be the answer to Indonesia&#8217;s problems. Gibran, despite also being a founder, did not seem to trigger the same protective reflex. His story was absorbed more quickly into the category of startup fraud, where sympathy goes to die&#8230; beside the audited financials.</p><p>Maybe the facts justify much of that difference. The eFishery case may simply have looked more damning to more people. Nadiem&#8217;s case, involving government procurement and political context, may naturally invite a wider range of interpretations. Any fair analysis has to admit that.</p><p>But facts do not explain everything. Public sentiment is produced by facts passing through social filters.</p><p>Those filters matter.</p><p>If a person belongs to a network that knows how to speak the language of institutions, then the public argument around them becomes more sophisticated. Their supporters do not just say &#8220;he is innocent.&#8221; They say the case raises concerns about criminalising policy, weakening reform, damaging investor confidence, or deterring capable people from public service. The defence becomes bigger than the accused.</p><p>Gibran did not seem to receive the same treatment. One can imagine a more complicated version of his story, one that asks about growth pressure, investor incentives, board oversight, internal controls, and whether the mythology of startup success creates conditions in which reality becomes negotiable. But that version of the story did not dominate. It was there if one looked for it, but it did not become the social consensus. The public did not seem especially eager to rescue him from the simplicity of his own scandal.</p><p>That is the disparity.</p><p>Not that Nadiem is defended. <strong>He should be.</strong></p><p>The issue is that complexity itself appears to become more available when the accused person looks like someone whose mistakes should be understood rather than merely punished.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>How Scandals Become Narratives</h3><p>Media framing plays its part, but not always in the crude way people imagine. </p><p>Every scandal enters the public domain looking for a genre. Once it finds one, the facts start behaving accordingly.</p><p>The eFishery story found the genre of corporate fraud. </p><ol><li><p>Growth, </p></li><li><p>Proceeds to suspicion, </p></li><li><p>Reaches the audit, </p></li><li><p>Ends with a founder standing amid the wreckage. </p></li></ol><p>Within that genre, new facts tend to reinforce the same moral arc: the numbers were wrong, the company was overvalued, the founder misled people, the ecosystem was fooled.</p><p>The Nadiem story is a different genre. It became a story about power, reform, procurement, politics, and whether the state can distinguish criminal conduct from contested policy. That genre is much more elastic. It allows:</p><ol><li><p>Supporters to interpret the case as a warning about reformers being punished.</p></li><li><p>Critics to interpret it as proof that technocratic branding does not place anyone above accountability. </p></li><li><p>Cynics to assume that the visible case is only the formal costume worn by an informal power struggle.</p></li></ol><p>This is why the same type of claim can hit differently in different scandals. </p><ul><li><p>In a <strong>corporate fraud</strong> story, a denial may sound like self-preservation. </p></li><li><p>In a <strong>political-procurement</strong> story, a denial may sound like resistance. </p></li><li><p>In a <strong>founder-collapse</strong> story, a prestigious background may look irrelevant. </p></li><li><p>In a <strong>reformer-on-trial</strong> story, it may be treated as evidence that something does not add up.</p></li></ul><p>Narratives do this. They instruct us on how to feel before we have finished thinking.</p><p>The Nadiem case generates a different kind of commentary because it has symbolic stakes. </p><ul><li><p>If he is guilty, then the reformist-founder myth takes a serious blow. </p></li><li><p>If he is innocent, then the state looks vindictive or careless with reputational destruction. </p></li></ul><p>Both versions are bigger than the courtroom.</p><p>By comparison, Gibran&#8217;s case damages trust in startups, investors, governance, and founder mythology, but it does not upset a national reform fantasy in quite the same way. It&#8217;s painful, but not sacred.</p><p>That distinction matters.</p><p>And because the public loves pretending it is led by evidence rather than narrative, very few people stop to ask why they were so ready to interpret one story broadly and the other narrowly.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Ecosystem&#8217;s Selective Memory</h3><p>The Indonesian startup and reform ecosystem has a memory problem.</p><p>When a company is rising, everyone wants proximity. </p><ul><li><p>Investors saw the opportunity early. </p></li><li><p>Advisers helped shape the strategy. </p></li><li><p>Partners believed in the mission. </p></li></ul><p>The founder becomes proof that Indonesia can build, scale, innovate, disrupt, empower, unlock, democratise, and all the other verbs that appear when a press release has been left unsupervised.</p><p>However, when things go wrong, suddenly the founder acted alone. </p><ul><li><p>The board was unaware. </p></li><li><p>Investors were fooled. </p></li><li><p>Advisers had limited visibility. </p></li></ul><p><strong>Everyone was nearby for the upside and mysteriously across town for the downside.</strong></p><p>This is not unique to Indonesia, of course. It is a global feature of modern capital.</p><p>The eFishery case exposes that tendency rather brutally. It invites a broader reckoning with how the ecosystem rewards scale narratives,  and how the hunger for local champions may dull scepticism. Yet the public version of the story sees Gibran as the necessary villain, while the broader ecosystem is spared the indignity of self-examination.</p><p>By contrast, the Nadiem case touches the belief that founder competence, once moved into government, can become national reform. This belief has been very attractive to Indonesia&#8217;s professional classes. It flatters them, and suggests the country&#8217;s problems are solvable by people who resemble them more than by the old political actors they distrust.</p><p>But government is power. It is procurement. It is bureaucracy. It is competing interests, institutional memory, political pressure, legal exposure, and a thousand decisions.</p><p>So when Nadiem is accused, the anxiety is reputational for a whole idea of leadership. The people who defend him may genuinely believe he is innocent or unfairly treated. But they may also be defending the proposition that their kind of person remains the answer.</p><p>The ecosystem wants:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Accountability</strong>, but not always when accountability threatens its favourite self-image. </p></li><li><p><strong>Reform</strong>, but sometimes confuses reform with the presence of reformist traits. </p></li><li><p><strong>Governance</strong>, but often discovers its passion for governance after the numbers stop working. </p></li><li><p><strong>Nuance</strong>, but seems to locate it most easily in neighbourhoods where everyone already knows the surname.</p></li></ul><p>This does not make the defence of Nadiem illegitimate, nor does it make the condemnation of Gibran unfair by default. It means the reactions are more socially indentured than they first appear to be.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:116584,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196985997?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The comparison between these two cases does not prove that one man is being treated unfairly and the other fairly, or that class explains everything. It also does not prove that Nadiem&#8217;s defenders are cynical or that Gibran deserved more sympathy. That&#8217;s now how things work.</p><p>However, what it does show is that public judgment is not neutral.</p><p>On one hand is the uneven granting of complexity, where certain people are allowed to remain complicated even under accusation. </p><ul><li><p>Their motives are debated, </p></li><li><p>Their context is expanded, </p></li><li><p>Their networks speak, </p></li><li><p>Their past achievements remain present in the room. </p></li></ul><p>Others are simplified quickly.</p><p>Nadiem is still discussed by many as a reformer caught in a dangerous, possibly political, possibly misunderstood process. Gibran has been discussed far more often as the founder at the centre of a fraud. Perhaps the legal and factual differences explain much of that. But public reaction is never only legal or factual.</p><p><strong>We should be honest about that.</strong></p><p>We should be honest that:</p><ul><li><p>People with powerful networks are defended differently. </p></li><li><p>Elite familiarity can cosplay as moral intuition. </p></li><li><p>&#8220;He is not that kind of person&#8221; often means &#8220;he is the kind of person I know how to imagine sympathetically.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>The public is much better at demanding accountability from people outside its tribe than from those who validate its hopes.</p></li></ul><p>The law will do what the law does. Maybe well. Maybe badly. </p><p>But the public reflex is already visible. And that&#8217;s the story.</p><p>Because when two scandals pass through the same society and emerge with such different emotional treatment, the difference tells us something. Not only about the accused. Not only about the media. Not only about politics or startups or procurement or founders.</p><ul><li><p>It tells us who gets to remain human under scrutiny.</p></li><li><p>It tells us who doesn&#8217;t.</p></li><li><p>It tells us whose friends know how to turn doubt into discourse.</p></li></ul><p>And it tells us that the court of public opinion, for all its noise about justice, still seems to namecheck before deciding how much nuance to serve.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> provides Indonesia-focused advisory and leadership intelligence for organisations that need to understand what is really moving beneath the surface. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> for better visibility before making your next move in Indonesia.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/gibran-nadiem-politics-public-sympathy?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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A smart exit plan protects money, flexibility, family decisions, and long-term options abroad.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/expats-need-exit-plan-before-moving-abroad</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/expats-need-exit-plan-before-moving-abroad</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 23:01:38 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Sb5O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c702f88-f56b-47d4-aeb8-c0b318faadfe_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Sb5O!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0c702f88-f56b-47d4-aeb8-c0b318faadfe_1792x1024.png" 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It begins with a reasonable feeling: <strong>life seems more possible</strong>.</p><p>That is the hook. Indonesia, in particular, can make the world feel less settled than it does elsewhere. Things are not always easy, but they are often alive. A conversation may still matter. A relationship may alter the shape of a problem. The machinery has not entirely disappeared behind portals, policy documents, and hold music.</p><p>For a certain kind of expat, this feels like oxygen.</p><p>It is also where the trouble starts.</p><p>The early stage of relocation has a way of making temporary confidence feel permanent. A few encouraging meetings begin to resemble a strategy. A warm welcome starts to feel like evidence. The fact that a situation is still forming can be mistaken for the fact that you understand it.</p><p>The arrival plan thrives in this atmosphere. It is naturally optimistic. It assumes that the good feeling means something durable, and that whatever remains unclear will become clear once life has settled around it.</p><p>The exit plan is less romantic. It asks whether this can be unwound.</p><p>That question is necessary. Not because the move will fail, but because a move abroad changes character once it becomes difficult to reverse. The moment leaving becomes painful, staying stops being quite as pure as everyone pretends.</p><p>The serious expat question is not whether you can build a life here.</p><p>It is whether you can still think clearly after you have.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Arrival Is the Easy Part</strong></h3><p>Southeast Asia is often romanticised differently from Europe. The dream is not usually an old house, but the sensation that the future has not yet been fully claimed.</p><p>That sensation can be intoxicating for people arriving from economies that feel over-managed and under-inspired. In the West, ambition can now feel like something that requires a lawyer before it requires an idea. In Indonesia, the foreigner may sense room. Room is a dangerous thing when you have spent years feeling boxed in.</p><p>This is not completely an illusion. Many people do find space here. Some build serious businesses. Some live better lives. Some discover that the place suits them in ways their home country no longer did.</p><p>The mistake is allowing that discovery to become a personality.</p><p>The early move flatters the person making it. It says they were right to want more. It suggests they have seen something others missed. Even uncertainty can become part of the charm at first, because uncertainty feels better when you are still calling it possibility.</p><p>Later, the same uncertainty may feel less poetic.</p><p>That is why the exit plan matters. It is written for the moment after the romance has stopped. The move then becomes less about who you hoped to become and more about what you have actually built.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Informality Is Easily Misunderstood</strong></h3><p>One of the most seductive parts of living in Indonesia is the sense that systems remain human. People matter here in ways that can feel refreshing to foreigners accustomed to faceless institutions. You may find that a problem becomes clearer only once someone introduces you to the right person, and that the right person would rather meet than send an email.</p><p>This can be useful. It can also make foreigners overconfident.</p><p>The mistake is to confuse being helped with being secure. A conversation may solve the immediate problem while leaving the underlying position exactly as fragile as it was before. That distinction is easy to ignore during the arrival phase because the result is what you wanted. The door opened. The matter moved.</p><p>But a personal system is still a system. It has rules, even when those rules are not written in the place you expected to find them. It has hierarchy. It has people whose agreement may matter more than your interpretation.</p><p>An exit plan forces the question: <strong>what survives if the helpfulness stops?</strong></p><p>That is not paranoia. It is basic respect for the complexity of a place you do not yet understand. The na&#239;ve foreigner imagines informality as looseness. The experienced one knows it often means the real structure is simply located elsewhere.</p><p>Indonesia can be welcoming without being simple. In fact, that may be one of the first things worth learning.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Real Trap Is Usually Pride</strong></h3><p>People like to imagine that expat entrapment is caused by hard barriers. The paperwork, the lease, the school year. These things matter, but they usually become decisive only after the deeper trap has formed.</p><p>The deeper trap is <strong>pride</strong>.</p><p>A move abroad quickly becomes part of a person&#8217;s public identity. They are not merely testing a country. They are the one who left, the one who saw the opportunity, the one who refused to keep living the life everyone else quietly complains about. Even if they never say this aloud, they may begin to feel it.</p><p>This makes reassessment difficult. Changing course looks like defeat.</p><p>In Southeast Asia, this can become challenging because the lifestyle may genuinely feel better. Comfort can soften the edges of doubt. A person who felt ordinary at home may feel more vivid abroad. That can make honesty harder.</p><p>The exit plan should be written before the ego starts protecting the decision.</p><ul><li><p>Before the farewell drinks. </p></li><li><p>Before the announcement. </p></li><li><p>Before the move acquires an audience. </p></li></ul><p>There should be a sober private agreement that says: if this stops working, we are allowed to leave without treating the reversal as a collapse.</p><p>That agreement may never be used.</p><p>Good. That is not the point. Its purpose is to keep choice alive before pride interferes.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>A Serious Move Needs a Way Back</strong></h3><p>There is a childish glamour to irreversible decisions. They make good stories. They suggest courage.</p><p>But a serious relocation should have some slack in it because the first version of any move is built on partial knowledge. You may understand the hotel version of the place, or the professional version, or the version explained by another expat who has converted survival into expertise. But you do not yet know what the country does to an ordinary day.</p><p>Ordinary days are where relocation becomes real.</p><p>Not the first landing. Not the first month. Not even the dinner where everyone agrees the move was brave. The truth appears later, when the novelty has gone and the place has stopped working for you.</p><p>Reversibility protects that moment.</p><p>It gives you permission to test the life before making it sacred. It allows commitment to arrive after evidence rather than before it. </p><p>The point is not to hover forever above the country, suitcase half-packed, congratulating yourself on prudence. That is its own kind of failure. The point is to avoid letting the first flush of confidence make decisions your future self has to defend at great expense.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The exit plan is often treated as pessimism because people prefer their courage unexamined.</p><p>But knowing how to leave does not mean you want to leave. It means you understand the difference between hope and dependency. Hope is healthy. Dependency begins when the cost of changing course becomes so high that inertia starts setting in.</p><p>Indonesia and Southeast Asia more broadly deserve better than na&#239;ve expat mythology. These places are not blank spaces for foreign reinvention. They are layered, fast-moving, generous, frustrating, and fully possessed of their own logic. They can reward foreigners who arrive with humility. They can punish those who arrive with appetite and call it vision.</p><p><strong>An exit plan is part of that humility</strong>.</p><p>It says: we are serious enough to come, but not arrogant enough to assume we understand the bargain yet. It says: we want this to work, but we will not force the country, the family, or the business to keep validating our first impression.</p><p>The expat who knows how to leave is less needy, not less committed. </p><ul><li><p>They can stay without turning the place into a religion. </p></li><li><p>They can leave without turning the move into a scandal. </p></li><li><p>They can make decisions from choice rather than embarrassment.</p></li></ul><p>That is the <strong>real freedom</strong>.</p><p>Not the pool. Not the villa.</p><p>Freedom is being able to admit the dream has changed, while still having a way out.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we advise companies and individuals on Indonesia relocation, and employment setup. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to understand the people, compliance, and operational realities behind building a serious presence in Indonesia.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/expats-need-exit-plan-before-moving-abroad?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! This post is public so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/expats-need-exit-plan-before-moving-abroad?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://careercandour.com/p/expats-need-exit-plan-before-moving-abroad?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Stop Selling Recruitment. Sell the Decision the Client Is Afraid to Make]]></title><description><![CDATA[Clients do not just buy recruitment. They buy confidence before making a senior hiring decision that could expose them.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 23:00:42 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-4IE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F734f9179-61d6-41f1-beb7-afe4b561b486_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-4IE!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F734f9179-61d6-41f1-beb7-afe4b561b486_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-4IE!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F734f9179-61d6-41f1-beb7-afe4b561b486_1792x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-4IE!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F734f9179-61d6-41f1-beb7-afe4b561b486_1792x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!-4IE!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F734f9179-61d6-41f1-beb7-afe4b561b486_1792x1024.png 1272w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There is a kind of meeting that happens in executive search. Everyone arrives with the solemnity of people about to make a serious commercial decision, then immediately begins discussing the matter in a way that guarantees nobody has to make one.</p><ol><li><p>The client has a role to fill. </p></li><li><p>The title is senior enough to sound important, but not so senior that anyone has resolved the politics around it. </p></li><li><p>The salary range has been &#8220;benchmarked,&#8221; which usually means it has survived an internal conversation with Finance and now bears only a passing resemblance to the market. </p></li><li><p>The job description is polished, but in the way a witness statement is polished. It contains facts, omissions, and several phrases that appear to have been placed there by Legal while everyone else was at lunch.</p></li></ol><p>The search firm is asked to help.</p><p>This is where the industry often makes its first mistake. It assumes the client wants recruitment.</p><p>The client does not want recruitment. Recruitment is merely the acceptable name for the anxiety. What the client wants is to move from uncertainty to confidence without being too badly exposed in the process. They want someone to tell them whether:</p><ul><li><p>The role makes sense, whether </p></li><li><p>The market will tolerate the package, whether </p></li><li><p>The calibre they want actually exists, and whether </p></li><li><p>The person they eventually hire will solve the problem or not.</p></li></ul><p>Of course, this cannot be said too directly at the start. The ritual must be observed. The client says they need &#8220;a few strong profiles.&#8221; The recruiter says they understand. Everyone pretends the issue is supply.</p><p>It rarely is.</p><div><hr></div><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! This post is public so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>The Job Description Is Only Half the Story</strong></h3><p>By the time a search brief arrives, it has usually passed through enough internal negotiation to lose its original shape. What began as a clear business need becomes a politically acceptable role. </p><ul><li><p>The company may need someone with authority, but the structure offers influence. </p></li><li><p>It may need pace, but the approval lines suggest a medieval court. </p></li><li><p>It may need someone to challenge the business, but only in a way that does not visibly upset the people who created the need for challenge.</p></li></ul><p>This is how companies produce beautiful briefs for impossible jobs.</p><p>The language is always reassuring. </p><ul><li><p>Strategic. </p></li><li><p>Hands-on. </p></li><li><p>Commercial. </p></li><li><p>Collaborative. </p></li><li><p>Transformational. </p></li><li><p>Low ego. </p></li></ul><p>But underneath, the contradiction is usually obvious. The business wants change without disturbance. It wants authority without redesigning control. It wants someone senior enough to carry the commercial risk and modest enough not to ask why the role has been built like a trap.</p><p>A mediocre search firm accepts the brief as a document. A better one treats it as evidence.</p><p>The interesting part is not what the brief says. The interesting part is what had to be left out for the brief to exist.</p><p>That is where <strong>advisory search</strong> begins. Not in the database. Not in the market map. Not in the handsome opening paragraph about the client&#8217;s exciting growth journey. It begins with the suspicion that the role, as described, may be less a solution, and more an act of <strong>organisational self-protection</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>What Clients Really Pay For</strong></h3><p>The commercial mistake many search firms make is believing they are paid for <strong>access to candidates</strong>. That may have been true once, when information was scarce and a discreet phone call had more mystery attached to it. Now, access is cheaper. Names are easier to find. Mediocre outreach is everywhere. The market is not short of people saying they have a network.</p><p>What remains scarce is <strong>judgment</strong>.</p><p>A client facing a meaningful hire is not simply asking, &#8220;Who is available?&#8221; They are asking a more dangerous question: &#8220;What kind of decision are we about to make, and will we regret it publicly?&#8221;</p><p>That regret may take different forms, but it usually has the same smell. </p><ul><li><p>A senior appointment that lands badly. </p></li><li><p>A strategy delayed because the chosen person was too safe. </p></li><li><p>A team unsettled because the hire was too disruptive for an organisation that only wanted the language of disruption. </p></li><li><p>A board wondering, six months later, why the impressive candidate from the impressive company has achieved the impressive result of making everyone quietly tense.</p></li></ul><p>The search firm worth paying for helps the client understand the decision before the candidate becomes the distraction.</p><p>This is not always welcomed. Clients often prefer the early stages of a search to feel productive rather than revealing. Productivity has a soothing quality. Calls are happening. Profiles are moving. Calendars are filling. There is activity, and activity has long been the preferred sedative of organisations unsure what they believe.</p><p>Judgment is less soothing. It asks whether:</p><ul><li><p>The business is ready for the person it says it wants. </p></li><li><p>The package reflects the risk. </p></li><li><p>The reporting line gives the role enough oxygen. </p></li><li><p>The panel is aligned, or whether alignment has been generously inferred from nobody openly disagreeing.</p></li></ul><p>These are not recruitment questions. They are decision questions.</p><p>And decision questions are where the fee begins to justify itself.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>A Market Map Should Tell the Truth</strong></h3><p>There is something amusing about the way market mapping is sometimes discussed, as though the act of arranging names into a document automatically constitutes insight. A map can be useful, of course. So can a thermometer. But nobody praises a thermometer for creating the fever.</p><p>The point of mapping the market is not to prove that work has been done. It is to bring reality into the room before reality does something more expensive later.</p><p>The market has a memory. This is inconvenient for companies, many of whom prefer to believe their employer brand begins fresh with each new vacancy. It does not. Candidates remember weak processes, underpowered roles, strange reporting lines, and the previous incumbent leaving. They hear things. They notice who has joined, who has left, and who smiles too intensely when describing the culture.</p><p>A good market map shows whether the client is attractive to the people it wants, not simply whether those people can be identified. It tests:</p><ul><li><p>The temperature of the proposition. </p></li><li><p>Whether the compensation is credible, </p></li><li><p>Whether the story is coherent, </p></li><li><p>Whether the role has enough substance to survive contact with a serious candidate.</p></li></ul><p>This is where many clients first encounter the market as a living thing .</p><p>Sometimes the news is good. </p><ul><li><p>The role is compelling. </p></li><li><p>The brand travels. </p></li><li><p>The timing works. </p></li></ul><p>More often, the truth is more awkward. The company wants candidates who are currently better employed, better paid, or better protected from exactly this sort of opportunity.</p><p>The search firm&#8217;s job is to make that sound useful, not to make it sound nicer.</p><p>There is a difference between discouraging a client and saving them from a fantasy. The latter is advisory work.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Someone Has to Say It</strong></h3><p>At some point, the search firm has to decide whether it is there to be agreeable or useful.</p><p>Agreeable has obvious advantages. It keeps the meeting warm. It preserves the fiction that the brief is sound, the market is eager, and the right candidate is merely waiting to be discovered by someone with sufficient Boolean literacy. Agreeable also travels well through procurement, where nuance often goes to die.</p><p>Useful is riskier.</p><p>Useful may require saying that:</p><ul><li><p>The title is wrong. </p></li><li><p>The salary will embarrass the process. </p></li><li><p>The role combines too much accountability with too little power. </p></li><li><p>The company is trying to hire a change leader into a system that has not consented to being changed.</p></li></ul><p>This is not provocation. Provocation is cheap. Any idiot can be contrarian for attention, and many have built newsletters on less.</p><p>The point is not to sound brave. The point is to <strong>make the hiring decision better</strong>.</p><p>A client may not enjoy hearing that the brief is wrong, especially if the brief has already been approved by several important people who would now prefer not to be reintroduced to it. But the alternative is worse. The alternative is to:</p><ol><li><p>Go to market with a flawed proposition, </p></li><li><p>Receive predictable resistance, </p></li><li><p>Reinterpret that resistance as a talent shortage, </p></li><li><p>Spend the next month asking for &#8220;slightly different profiles&#8221; </p></li></ol><p>&#8230;while the original problem continues to exist.</p><p>There is a cost to challenging the client. There is <strong>a</strong> <strong>larger cost to not challenging them</strong>.</p><p>This is the commercial edge too many firms underprice. </p><ul><li><p>The courage to slow the process slightly at the beginning so it does not become nonsense in the middle. </p></li><li><p>The ability to distinguish a search problem from a business problem. </p></li><li><p>The discipline to protect the decision, not merely service the request.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Executive search will always involve candidates. Names matter. Access matters. Execution matters. Nobody is suggesting the industry retreat into pure advisory theatre and invoice clients for asking haunting questions in hotel lobbies.</p><p>But the value has moved.</p><p>It is no longer enough to be the firm that knows people. Everyone knows people, or claims to, which in practical terms has become much the same problem. The premium sits with the firm that can enter early, read the room accurately, challenge the brief intelligently, and tell the client what kind of decision they are really making before the market does it for them.</p><p>The shortlist is visible. That is why everyone overvalues it.</p><p>The sharper work happens before there is anything to show. It happens in the uncomfortable pause after someone asks whether the role has enough authority. It happens when the client realises the package is not a minor detail but a public statement of seriousness. It happens when the hiring panel discovers that wanting change and accepting change are not identical hobbies.</p><p>That is where search becomes commercial.</p><p>Not in the performance of busyness. Not in the ceremonial production of profiles. Not in the hopeful belief that one exceptional candidate will compensate for a compromised decision.</p><p>The future belongs to firms willing to make the client slightly less comfortable and much more likely to succeed.</p><p>Sell that.</p><p>Sell the decision hiding under the mandate.</p><p>That is where the money is.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we work with clients and train recruitment firms on how to improve briefing discipline, market insight, and senior hiring judgment. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to make search more strategic, commercial, and credible.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! This post is public so feel free to share it.</p></div><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://careercandour.com/p/executive-search-decision-risk?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p></div><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA['Your' Recruiter Is Not Your Therapist, Your Agent, or Your Mum]]></title><description><![CDATA[Recruiters do not ignore every candidate because they are rude. Sometimes the candidate is simply too unclear, too heavy or too hard to place.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/candidates-recruiter-relationships-mistakes</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/candidates-recruiter-relationships-mistakes</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 23:01:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a5kJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30f86dc8-f74c-475b-a718-3881d8487f03_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a5kJ!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30f86dc8-f74c-475b-a718-3881d8487f03_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a5kJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30f86dc8-f74c-475b-a718-3881d8487f03_1792x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a5kJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30f86dc8-f74c-475b-a718-3881d8487f03_1792x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!a5kJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F30f86dc8-f74c-475b-a718-3881d8487f03_1792x1024.png 1272w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There is a palpable disappointment that enters the room when a candidate realises a recruiter is not going to rescue them.</p><p>Nobody says it directly. But you can hear it in the slightly wounded silence after a recruiter asks, quite reasonably, what sort of role they are looking for. The candidate has arrived hoping for guidance, and possibly a small act of professional mercy. The recruiter has arrived with a job brief, and a client relationship.</p><p>This is where much of the trouble begins.</p><p>Not because recruiters are heartless. Some are, obviously, but that is true of every profession. The bigger issue is that candidates often misunderstand the shape of the relationship. They treat recruiters as if they have been appointed to a broad pastoral role in the candidate&#8217;s life. Someone who will listen carefully, identify hidden potential, restore confidence, soften the indignities of job hunting, and somehow know what the candidate wants before the candidate has said it out loud.</p><p>That would be lovely.</p><p>It would also require a different business model.</p><p>Recruiters do not operate in the world of personal fulfilment. They operate in the world of demand. A company has a problem, a budget, a rough idea of the person it wants, and a confused job description. The recruiter&#8217;s task is to turn that into a shortlist of people who can plausibly solve the problem without creating a new one.</p><p>This does not make the recruiter relationship conditional. And candidates who understand the conditions tend to get much more from it.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>You Need to Be Representable</h3><p>The recruiter is not trying to discover your soul. They are trying to work out whether you can be represented.</p><p>A candidate may feel they are telling a rich and complicated story about their career. The recruiter is listening for something more practical. </p><ul><li><p>Can this person be explained to a client in a way that sounds convincing? </p></li><li><p>Is there a clear through-line? </p></li><li><p>Do the expectations make sense? </p></li><li><p>Will this person hold up when introduced to someone with budget authority?</p></li></ul><p>The recruiter has to take what you say and convert it into a message the market can understand. That is much easier when you arrive focused. It becomes significantly harder when the conversation sounds like someone opening a drawer full of tangled chargers and saying, &#8220;There&#8217;s definitely something useful in here.&#8221;</p><p>There may be depth in your career story. There may be nuance. There may be a fascinating explanation for why your last two moves look strange on paper. But the recruiter still needs to know what to do with you.</p><ul><li><p>Where do you fit?</p></li><li><p>What problem do you solve?</p></li><li><p>Why would someone pay for that now?</p></li></ul><p>These are generous questions, because they force the conversation out of self-reflection and into usefulness.</p><p>A recruiter can help refine a message, but they cannot invent one. If you arrive hoping they will listen long enough to uncover your professional destiny, you are asking for therapy.</p><p>The job search may be emotional for you. Of course it is. But the recruiter relationship begins to work when your emotional reality has been turned into something the market can act on.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>&#8220;Open to Anything&#8221; Is Usually Not Helpful</h3><p>There are few phrases more beloved by uncertain candidates than &#8220;I&#8217;m open to anything.&#8221;</p><p>It sounds mature. Adaptable.</p><p>To a recruiter, it sounds like someone walking into an airport and announcing they are open to travel.</p><p>Fine. <strong>But where?</strong></p><p>Candidates say it because they do not want to close doors. They imagine specificity as a form of self-sabotage.</p><p>But <strong>&#8220;anything&#8221; is not a strategy</strong>.</p><ul><li><p>Recruiters cannot search for &#8220;anything.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>Clients do not brief recruiters on &#8220;someone bright who could probably do a range of things once properly understood.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>Hiring managers may be confused, but even confusion usually comes with a salary band.</p></li></ul><p>The market deals in categories. </p><ul><li><p>Role titles,</p></li><li><p>Functions, </p></li><li><p>Sectors, </p></li><li><p>Levels, </p></li><li><p>Mandates, </p></li><li><p>Budgets. </p></li></ul><p>Imperfect categories, certainly. Sometimes ridiculous ones. But categories nonetheless.</p><p>If you cannot locate yourself inside that machinery, someone else has to do it for you.</p><p>That is where many candidates become surprisingly expensive. Not expensive in money. Expensive in interpretation. Expensive in the amount of mental admin required to turn their general professional existence into something a hiring manager might understand.</p><p>There is also a small arrogance hidden inside vagueness. The candidate assumes the market should do the work of finding their purpose. It should look at their CV, sense their potential, understand their disappointment, admire their range, and present an opportunity that finally makes sense.</p><p>The market doesn&#8217;t work like that.</p><p>Specificity does not trap you. It helps people help you.</p><p>You can still be open to adjacent possibilities. You can still be flexible on sector, title, or route. But flexibility needs a centre. Without one, you are not too broad.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Best Candidates Are Easy to Represent</h3><p>There is an unfair truth at the centre of recruiter relationships: the candidates who get the most useful help are not always the most talented.</p><p>They are often <strong>the easiest to help</strong>.</p><p>This feels offensive, so naturally it is worth examining.</p><p>Recruiters are dealing with clients, interviews, shifting briefs, feedback delays, offer negotiations, and hiring managers who disappear shortly after promising a decision in the next 48 hours. Their world is not a calm advisory practice.</p><p>Inside that environment, the easy-to-help candidate has enormous power because progress with them feels possible.</p><ul><li><p>They answer the question. </p></li><li><p>They know their salary position. </p></li><li><p>They send the document they promised. </p></li><li><p>They do not disappear halfway through a process.</p></li></ul><p>This sounds basic because it is basic. It is also rarer than it should be.</p><p>Candidates often underestimate how much trust is built through small operational behaviour. A recruiter is not just assessing whether you are impressive. They are assessing whether introducing you to a client will make them look sensible.</p><p>Every submission is a <strong>reputational bet</strong>.</p><p>When a recruiter sends your profile forward, they are saying, &#8220;This person is worth your time.&#8221; If you are erratic, over-complicated, or mysteriously unavailable, that becomes harder to say.</p><p>That is why boring behaviours matter. </p><ul><li><p>Clarity matters. </p></li><li><p>Responsiveness matters. </p></li><li><p>Follow-through matters. </p></li></ul><p>Not because recruiters have a deep moral attachment to admin, but because admin is often where reliability shows itself.</p><p>The easiest candidates to help do not expect the recruiter to carry the entire process on their behalf. They bring clean information, make decisions at a reasonable speed, and understand that a recruiter cannot advocate with confidence for someone who changes stance every 48 hours.</p><p>Being easy to help is about being commercially usable.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Be Human, But Stay Representable</h3><p>Recruiters do not need candidates to be robotic. The best conversations usually contain some warmth, humour, candour, and shared recognition that hiring processes have become strangely elaborate for something that is supposedly about work.</p><p>But warmth has boundaries.</p><p>It happens when every practical question becomes a doorway into unresolved career injury. </p><ul><li><p>A simple question about why you are looking becomes a guided tour through disappointment. </p></li><li><p>A question about salary becomes a referendum on fairness. </p></li><li><p>A discussion about role fit somehow ends with a former manager being tried in absentia.</p></li></ul><p>Some of this may be justified. Many candidates have been badly treated. Companies can be careless. Feedback can be cowardly. Recruitment processes can make intelligent adults feel dehumanised.</p><p>Still, the recruiter call is not the place to unpack everything that has ever happened to you.</p><p>The recruiter is listening for how you will sound elsewhere.</p><p>That is the part candidates forget. They assume they are speaking privately, human to human. And they are. But they are also auditioning for representation. The recruiter is imagining you in front of a client. They are asking whether your frustration has become insight or whether it is defining.</p><p>This does not mean pretending everything has been wonderful. The candidate who describes every setback as &#8220;a great learning experience&#8221; is not more convincing.</p><p>What works is <strong>steadiness</strong>.</p><p>Enough honesty to be believable. Enough restraint to be trusted.</p><p>You can say a role was no longer right without sounding like you are still living inside the grievance, and you can explain a difficult exit without making the listener responsible for repairing it. You can also be candid without handing the recruiter a mop.</p><p>Professional warmth says: I am a real person, and I can still be put in front of other real people without incident.</p><p>Remarkably that is no small thing.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The recruiter relationship works best when everyone stops pretending it is softer, nobler, or more emotionally comprehensive than it is.</p><p>A recruiter is not your therapist. They are not your agent in the Hollywood sense, pacing beside a pool while negotiating your destiny. They are not your mum, waiting lovingly with a bowl of soup. They are <strong>a commercial intermediary</strong> operating inside a market that may or may not currently have any interest in your preferred version of yourself.</p><p>That sounds cold.</p><p>Good.</p><p>Cold things can be useful. Refrigerators, for instance. Also market reality.</p><p>The strongest candidates do not resent the recruiter&#8217;s role. They understand it. They become clear enough to represent, specific enough to remember, and steady enough to trust. And they bring ambition without requiring emotional supervision.</p><p>Recruiters can absolutely accelerate a job search. They can open doors, refine positioning, bring market intelligence, and put your name into conversations you could not access alone. But they cannot do the foundational work for you. They cannot want clarity on your behalf. They cannot transform a cloud of dissatisfaction into a brief a client will pay for.</p><p>That job is yours.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://careercandour.com/">Career Candou</a>r we work 1:1 with professionals to make them easier for recruiters and hiring managers to understand. Your experience. Your direction. Your value. Turned into a clear market story. Doesn&#8217;t matter how good you are if nobody understands where you fit. Want a competitive advantage? <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leighmckiernon/">DM us</a>.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/candidates-recruiter-relationships-mistakes?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/koinworks-scandal-indonesia-fintech</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2026 23:01:00 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rp1w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc779211c-bc45-403a-ac52-7e0602871b75_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rp1w!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc779211c-bc45-403a-ac52-7e0602871b75_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rp1w!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc779211c-bc45-403a-ac52-7e0602871b75_1792x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rp1w!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc779211c-bc45-403a-ac52-7e0602871b75_1792x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rp1w!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc779211c-bc45-403a-ac52-7e0602871b75_1792x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!rp1w!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc779211c-bc45-403a-ac52-7e0602871b75_1792x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There&#8217;s a Southeast Asian startup story that begins with a founder on a conference stage saying &#8220;financial inclusion&#8221; and ends, several years later, with prosecutors saying <strong>&#8220;manipulated invoices.&#8221;</strong> Somewhere in between, a venture capital firm issues a press release, a bank signs a partnership, and everyone agrees that this is definitely the future of finance&#8230; <strong>provided nobody asks what the collateral actually is.</strong></p><p>Enter KoinWorks, once presented as one of Indonesia&#8217;s brighter fintech stars: a platform for small businesses, productive lending, digital financial access, and all the other phrases that sound magnificent in a Series C announcement. In January 2022, KoinWorks announced a <strong>US$108 million Series C</strong> round led by <strong>MDI Ventures</strong>, with the round split between US$43 million in equity and US$65 million in debt capital. The company positioned itself around helping underserved Indonesian SMEs access financing. Very noble. Very &#8220;please do not check the loan files too closely.&#8221;</p><p>Then, in November 2024, Indonesia&#8217;s financial regulator, OJK, said it was placing PT Lunaria Annua Teknologi, the operator of KoinP2P/KoinWorks, under strict supervision after reports of delayed payments to some lenders linked to alleged misuse of funds by a borrower. OJK summoned management, asked for explanations, demanded concrete resolution steps, and sought commitments to protect affected customers.</p><p>And now, in May 2026, prosecutors have detained three KoinWorks executives in connection with an alleged Rp600 billion credit fraud involving BRI. Prosecutors allege that financing was channeled unlawfully using manipulated invoice collateral and without required insurance. </p><p>And so we return to the central question: <strong>why is it apparently so difficult for some of these people to run a company properly?</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Culture, Ego, and Control</strong></h3><p>One of the underrated pleasures of working around startups is meeting senior people who have developed the confidence of wartime generals. They speak in phrases like &#8220;ecosystem,&#8221; &#8220;flywheel,&#8221; and &#8220;strategic alignment,&#8221; usually while ignoring the person in the room explaining how hiring, risk, operations, and organisational structure actually work.</p><ul><li><p>You suggest a proper hiring model. They respond as if you have proposed communism.</p></li><li><p>You recommend a senior risk operator. They explain that &#8220;culture fit&#8221; is important, which often means &#8220;someone from our WhatsApp circle.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>You suggest building actual governance before scaling credit. They smile in the way people smile when they are already mentally composing a post about being &#8220;humbled&#8221; to win an award.</p></li></ul><p>Then, three years later, the company appears in the news beside phrases like &#8220;gagal bayar,&#8221; &#8220;strict supervision,&#8221; and &#8220;alleged credit manipulation.&#8221; At which point, naturally, everyone is shocked. Shocked that the system consisting of social capital, investor logos, and a heroic disregard for basic controls has encountered a negative outcome.</p><p>The arrogance is structural. In some venture-backed companies, especially in frothy markets, management confidence becomes a substitute for competence. A young executive team raises money, gets profiled, joins panels, meets ministers, hires a comms agency, and begins to mistake external validation for internal capability. The company becomes less a business than a stage production called <strong>We Are Building The Future</strong>, with the CFO occasionally interrupting to ask whether anyone has seen the cash-flow report.</p><p>Credit businesses are especially unforgiving of this. </p><ul><li><p>You can fake momentum in many industries for a while. </p></li><li><p>You can subsidise growth. You can buy users. </p></li><li><p>You can massage engagement metrics. </p></li></ul><p>But lending has a nasty little habit: the truth matures on a schedule.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Venture Capital&#8217;s Credit Problem</strong></h3><p>The venture capital model loves scale. It loves </p><ul><li><p>Repeatability</p></li><li><p>Platforms</p></li><li><p>Asset-light growth</p></li><li><p>The idea that software can eat the world&#8230; while invoicing the world afterward.</p></li></ul><p>But lending is balance-sheet risk, fraud risk, borrower risk, collateral risk, collections risk, regulatory risk, and, in emerging markets, occasionally &#8220;your borrower&#8217;s borrower was a cousin of a man who says the invoice was spiritually valid&#8221; risk.</p><p>We know that banks are slow, SMEs are underserved, data can improve underwriting, digital platforms can widen access, and technology can make capital more efficient. But it is also true that invoice financing has been vulnerable to fraud since approximately the invention of paper. Fake invoices, duplicate invoices, circular transactions, inflated receivables, related-party games. These are not new problems.</p><p>The danger comes when venture logic invades credit logic. </p><ul><li><p><strong>Venture asks:</strong> how fast can this grow? </p></li><li><p><strong>Credit asks:</strong> should this grow? </p></li><li><p><strong>Venture asks:</strong> what is the total addressable market? </p></li><li><p><strong>Credit asks:</strong> who exactly owes us money, and what happens when they don&#8217;t pay? </p></li><li><p><strong>Venture asks:</strong> can we increase disbursement volume this quarter? </p></li><li><p><strong>Credit asks:</strong> why is that invoice printed in a font only used by criminals and wedding invitations?</p></li></ul><p>In the KoinWorks case, the alleged misconduct involves manipulated invoice collateral and financing from BRI through the platform, according to prosecutors. Again, these are allegations, not established facts. But the alleged pattern points to the mismatch at the heart of many fintech failures: </p><p><strong>People wanted the economics of lending without the discipline of lending.</strong></p><p>The boring people in credit departments exist for a reason. They are there because somebody must ask whether:</p><ul><li><p> the collateral exists</p></li><li><p>the borrower can repay</p></li><li><p>the documentation is real</p></li><li><p>insurance is in place</p></li></ul><p>In healthy financial institutions, paranoia is actually a control function.</p><p>In venture-backed lending, paranoia is treated as cultural misalignment.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Social Proof and Its Limits</strong></h3><p>There is a particular ecosystem disease where pedigree gets mistaken for performance. </p><ul><li><p>Good school? Impressive. </p></li><li><p>Big consulting firm? Excellent. </p></li><li><p>Family office nearby? Wonderful. </p></li><li><p>Knows the right people? Fantastic. </p></li><li><p>Can run a regulated credit business with operational discipline, independent risk controls, and a robust governance structure? </p></li></ul><p><strong>&#8230;let&#8217;s not get bogged down in negativity.</strong></p><p>This is where the &#8220;mates and connections&#8221; problem becomes dangerous.</p><p>A serious financial company needs people who can say no. It needs:</p><ul><li><p>Independent operators.</p></li><li><p>Risk leaders with authority.</p></li><li><p>Finance people who are not treated as clerks.</p></li><li><p>Compliance with teeth.</p></li><li><p>Boards that understand the difference between &#8220;growth is temporarily messy&#8221; and &#8220;we may have built a machine for laundering bad decisions.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>But in status-driven ecosystems, the people who should be challenged are often protected by what should invite scrutiny. </p><ul><li><p>They went to the right university. </p></li><li><p>They know the right investors. </p></li><li><p>Their cap table looks respectable. </p></li><li><p>They speak fluent McKinsey. </p></li></ul><p>And so the incentives become warped. </p><ol><li><p>Hiring becomes a social exercise. </p></li><li><p>Board oversight becomes a hospitality ritual. </p></li><li><p>Strategic partnerships become proof of seriousness. </p></li><li><p>Investor participation becomes a credibility shield. </p></li><li><p>Everyone assumes someone else did the diligence. </p></li><li><p>The VC assumes the bank checked the credit. </p></li><li><p>The bank assumes the platform checked the borrower. </p></li><li><p>The regulator assumes the company has systems. </p></li><li><p>The company assumes the founder is a genius. </p></li><li><p>The founder assumes the next round will solve everything.</p></li></ol><p>Then the music stops, and there is a room full of adults pointing at each other like a corporate Renaissance painting.</p><p>This is not unique to Indonesia, but Indonesia does have a particularly rich environment for this kind of theatre, because it&#8217;s of the relationship-heavy business culture, state-linked capital, prestige-driven hiring, regulatory complexity, and opaque networks.</p><p>And when it goes wrong, people ask: <strong>was it stupidity or corruption?</strong></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Good Mission, Hard Business</strong></h3><p>A key part of the fintech lending story is that it was not supposed to be grubby consumer lending. It was productive lending. </p><ul><li><p>SMEs. </p></li><li><p>Working capital. </p></li><li><p>Real economy. </p></li><li><p>Mothers opening shops. </p></li><li><p>Entrepreneurs buying inventory. </p></li><li><p>Digitisation. </p></li><li><p>Nation-building. </p></li></ul><p>A PowerPoint slide probably had an illustration of a smiling warung owner standing next to a bar chart.</p><p>This is the emotionally powerful version of the story. And it is not entirely false. Indonesia&#8217;s SMEs do need capital. Many are underserved by traditional banks. A well-run fintech lender could genuinely help solve a real problem.</p><p>But &#8220;real problem&#8221; does not mean &#8220;easy business.&#8221; In fact, it often means the opposite. <strong>Underserved borrowers are underserved for reasons</strong>. </p><ul><li><p>Some lack formal records. </p></li><li><p>Some have volatile cash flows. </p></li><li><p>Some operate in informal supply chains. </p></li><li><p>Some are good borrowers trapped outside traditional systems. </p></li></ul><p>And others are bad borrowers who have correctly identified fintech as a faster route to money.</p><p>Separating those groups is the business.</p><p>That is <strong>the whole business.</strong></p><p>Not the app. Not the brand. The business is knowing who should receive money, on what terms, secured by what, monitored how, and recovered under what scenario when things go wrong.</p><p>By late 2024, OJK data showed stress across Indonesia&#8217;s P2P lending industry. The number of P2P lenders with TWP90 above the 5 percent threshold rose from 15 in April 2024 to 21 by November 2024, and then 22 by December 2024. OJK cited factors including borrower credit scoring quality and collections processes.</p><p>That matters because it suggests KoinWorks sits inside a wider sector problem. Productive lending was sold as a cleaner, more socially useful version of fintech credit. But productive lending is difficult precisely because it requires <strong>real underwriting.</strong></p><p>The sad thing is that the more noble the mission sounds, the easier it becomes to suspend scepticism. </p><ul><li><p>Who wants to be the boring person opposing financial inclusion? </p></li><li><p>Who wants to slow down lending to small businesses? </p></li><li><p>Who wants to tell the founder that the underwriting engine is crap?</p></li></ul><p>But financial inclusion without credit discipline is not inclusion.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Boardroom Problem</strong></h3><p>The most fascinating thing about these scandals is not that bad things happen. Bad things happen in finance <strong>constantly</strong>. The fascinating thing is how long prestigious ecosystems can look at obvious fragility and call it momentum.</p><ol><li><p>The company raises money. </p></li><li><p>The investors celebrate. </p></li><li><p>The media writes it up. </p></li><li><p>The senior people become &#8220;ecosystem leaders.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>Junior staff are told they are lucky to be part of something transformational. </p></li><li><p>External advisers raise concerns and are met with the serene expression of people who believe governance is something you add after Series D.</p></li></ol><p>Then, suddenly, <strong>everyone discovers prudence.</strong></p><ul><li><p>Regulators ask for explanations. </p></li><li><p>Lenders want repayment. </p></li><li><p>Banks issue statements. </p></li><li><p>Investors become &#8220;not involved in day-to-day operations.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>Founders become &#8220;cooperating fully.&#8221; </p></li></ul><p>Andd the company says it remains committed to customers, stakeholders, transparency, and other endangered species.</p><p>BRI, for its part, reportedly said it would respect and support the legal process around the alleged KoinWorks-related credit case, and prosecutors said they were continuing to examine witnesses, experts, suspects, and trace assets for recovery of state losses.</p><p>But yes&#8230; same old, same old.</p><ul><li><p>Nobody saw it coming&#8230; except perhaps the people who did. </p></li><li><p>Nobody was responsible&#8230; except perhaps the people who were. </p></li><li><p>Lessons will be learned, </p></li><li><p>Reforms will be implemented,</p></li></ul><p>And everyone will agree that the real villain was &#8220;process gaps.&#8221; </p><p>But the deeper issue is that many startup boards and investors are not built for the businesses they fund. In a consumer app, that may be tolerable for longer. In lending, it is lethal. A credit platform&#8217;s board should be obsessed with arrears, recoveries, borrower concentration, fraud controls, internal audit, exceptions, underwriting overrides, insurance, and related-party exposure.</p><p>Instead, too many boards behave like the company is a rocket ship. The problem with rocket ships is that when the engineering is bad, they explode.</p><p>&#8220;Good investors&#8221; are not the same as &#8220;good governors.&#8221; A prestigious cap table can help a company raise money, but it cannot:</p><ul><li><p>Make bad loans good</p></li><li><p>Turn weak controls into strong ones</p></li><li><p>Make arrogant leadership humble</p></li><li><p>Protect an ecosystem from the consequences of mistaking social proof for institutional competence</p></li></ul><p>That is how you get the great emerging-market fintech cycle of big round, big promise, big problem, big silence.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:116584,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196985997?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QSnV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9783cc7e-5b70-4e07-be72-a380ca15596c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>So why is it so difficult for these guys to run a company properly?</p><p>Because <strong>running a proper company is not the glamorous bit.</strong></p><p>Running a proper company is:</p><ul><li><p>Hiring the annoying person who says no</p></li><li><p>Building systems before scale</p></li><li><p>Letting risk people block revenue people</p></li><li><p>Designing an organisation where authority and accountability match. </p></li></ul><p>It is not treating compliance as a decorative plant.</p><p>And above all, it is understanding that finance is not made legitimate by technology. Finance is made legitimate by trust, controls, repayment, governance, and consequences.</p><p>The KoinWorks case, if the allegations are proven, will be a story about an ecosystem that rewarded the appearance of sophistication while underinvesting in the substance of it. It will be a story about how venture capital can distort financial businesses when growth is treated as proof, pedigree as competence, and connections as diligence. It will be a story about what happens when people who should be building boring, conservative, well-controlled credit institutions instead decide they are building the future.</p><p>The future, unfortunately, has arrears.</p><p>And somewhere in Jakarta, one imagines, a very serious person is still explaining that the:</p><ul><li><p>Hiring model was not the problem, </p></li><li><p>Org design was not the problem,</p></li><li><p>Governance was not the problem,</p></li><li><p>Board was not the problem,</p></li><li><p>Underwriting was not the problem,</p></li><li><p>Incentives were not the problem,</p></li><li><p>Culture was not the problem </p></li></ul><p>&#8230;and everything would have been fine if only the market had understood the vision.</p><p>Yes, mate.</p><p>Absolutely.</p><p>The vision was perfect.</p><p>It was just the invoices that were (allegedly) fake.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we help businesses operating in Indonesia understand the people, culture, and governance realities. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to build the leadership structures, hiring models, and accountability systems needed to operate properly.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/koinworks-scandal-indonesia-fintech?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/cheap-countries-cost-expats-more</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2026 23:01:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nofy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3280ca4d-f220-4ff6-a8e3-6745f17b0d95_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nofy!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3280ca4d-f220-4ff6-a8e3-6745f17b0d95_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>There is a particular expression that appears on the face of the newly arrived expat around month three, usually while standing in a supermarket aisle holding a small, apologetic block of cheddar priced like a controlled substance. It is the expression of a person who has just realised that the country was only cheap before he tried to live in it properly.</p><p>Before arrival, the spreadsheet had been seductive in the way all bad ideas are seductive when expressed in neat monthly columns: </p><ul><li><p>Rent down, </p></li><li><p>Eating out down, </p></li><li><p>Domestic help down, </p></li><li><p>Weather up, </p></li><li><p>Tax possibly down </p></li></ul><p>&#8230;and therefore, according to the mathematics of lifestyle arbitrage, happiness was now not only available but fiscally responsible.</p><p>And for a while, it works, because the early expat economy is really just the holiday economy; the coffees feel affordable, the taxis feel miraculous, the restaurant bill is reasonable, and the newcomer begins telling friends back home, that people in the West are &#8220;doing life wrong.&#8221;</p><p>Then life, sensing arrogance, enters the chat.</p><p>Not vacation life, not hotel life, not the life where a charming local solves everything because you are smiling and carrying cash, but actual life: </p><ul><li><p>The dentist who is either excellent or experimental, </p></li><li><p>The school that costs more than the mortgage you fled, </p></li><li><p>The visa consultant who speaks in riddles </p></li><li><p>The bank that would like seven documents proving you exist but will not accept the six documents proving you exist, </p></li><li><p>The slow, humiliating discovery that the cheapest country in the world becomes surprisingly expensive the moment you require anything to function predictably.</p></li></ul><p>The myth is not that some countries cost less than others. Of course they do. The myth is that lower prices automatically mean lower living costs, and that a foreign country exists merely as a discount version of the one you left.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Holiday Cheap Is Not Life Cheap</strong></h3><p>A tourist can declare a country cheap after three dinners, and two taxi rides, because tourism is the only financial model in which nobody has to repair a roof, negotiate a lease clause, find an orthodontist, register a vehicle, renew a residency permit, or learn why the man at the government counter is shaking his head before you have finished your sentence.</p><p>The tourist floats above the system, purchasing small pleasures at favourable exchange rates, confusing hospitality with infrastructure, and mistaking the fact that lunch cost six dollars for evidence that the whole country has been successfully audited.</p><p>The resident, unfortunately, eventually lands.</p><p>The resident learns that cheap restaurants do not make international schooling cheap, that affordable rent does not mean the landlord understands maintenance as a concept, and that a country can offer breathtaking natural beauty while still treating basic administrative continuity as an avant-garde European theory.</p><p>This is the first betrayal of the cheap-country fantasy: the prices that seduce you are often the prices attached to optional things, while the prices that discipline you are attached to the non-negotiable parts of adult life, the parts nobody photographs because &#8220;Spent Four Hours Proving My Address to a Man Behind Glass&#8221; doesn&#8217;t performs well on Instagram.</p><p>A hotel can make almost anywhere feel easy, because hotels are highly evolved machines built to conceal the country around them, absorbing the chaos so guests can continue believing that the local electricity grid is whimsical rather than unstable, and that the drinking water situation is part of the culture.</p><p>But renting a home, hiring staff, choosing insurance, opening accounts, finding doctors, understanding local obligations, and discovering which professionals are competent rather than merely confident all require direct contact with the machinery beneath the postcard..</p><p>The tourist asks, &#8220;How much is dinner?&#8221;</p><p>The resident asks, &#8220;Why is the internet off again, who is responsible for the leak, does this receipt count for tax purposes, and why has my bank account been frozen because my signature looks slightly more enthusiastic than it did last Thursday?&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Foreigner Premium Is Real</strong></h3><p>Every expat pays tax before the tax office even notices them, and it is collected by landlords, agents, fixers, lawyers, schools, drivers, contractors, and consultants.</p><p>This is the expat tax on ignorance: the premium paid for not knowing what things should cost, who can be trusted, which rules matter, which rules are theatre, which documents are essential, which promises are ornamental, and which smiling person has just identified you as a temporary economic opportunity.</p><p>It is not always malicious, which is part of what makes it so irritating.</p><p>Sometimes the surcharge comes from perfectly ordinary market asymmetry, because the newcomer needs something urgently, speaks badly, understands little, wants reassurance, and has already told everyone within a twelve-mile radius that he has moved abroad for a &#8220;simpler life,&#8221; which is local dialect for &#8220;please attach the foreigner margin.&#8221;</p><p>The expat may:</p><ul><li><p>Pay too much rent because the apartment has the right lighting and he has confused exposed concrete with authenticity; </p></li><li><p>Hire the wrong adviser because the adviser has a website in English;</p></li><li><p>Choose the expensive school because other anxious parents are there.</p></li></ul><p>Nobody likes to admit this because it interferes with the self-image of the globally mobile person, who prefers to imagine himself as bold, strategic, and worldly, rather than as a man who just paid double for a sofa because he did not know the delivery guy was also the salesman&#8217;s cousin.</p><p>The expat tax is not paid only in money either.</p><p>It is paid in time, in embarrassment, in avoidable mistakes, in badly translated contracts, and in waiting rooms.</p><p>The more sophisticated the expat, the more elaborate the denial can become.</p><p>They will say they are:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;Building local relationships&#8221; when they are being politely rinsed, </p></li><li><p>&#8220;Moving fast&#8221; when they are skipping due diligence, and </p></li><li><p>&#8220;Embracing the culture&#8221; when they are accepting operational chaos because challenging it would require admitting they do not yet know how anything works.</p></li></ul><p>That is the real commercial danger of the cheap-country myth: it flatters the outsider into thinking low prices equal easy decisions, when in low-information decisions are often the most expensive purchases available.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Cheap Can Still Be Hard Work</strong></h3><p>Some countries do not take your money all at once; they take it in mood, momentum, and tiny daily humiliations, which is far more corrosive when you are trying to run a business, raise children, remain married, or simply complete one administrative task before the sun gives up.</p><p>This is the part nobody prices correctly: <strong>friction</strong>.</p><p>A low-cost country can still be expensive if every basic process requires a fixer, a follow-up, a stamped copy, a second visit, an introduction, a translation, a mysterious fee, a calmer spouse, and the emotional resilience of a hostage negotiator.</p><p>The rent may be lower, but if the power cuts during client calls, the air conditioning develops a moral objection to August, and the internet provider responds to outages with the serenity of an organisation that has already been paid, then the true cost of the place has started billing you through your productivity.</p><p>Friction is not dramatic enough to scare people at first.</p><p>It arrives as a delay, then a workaround, then a person you must call, then another fee, then an informal process everyone claims is normal, then a dependence on people who understand the system better than you do and may or may not benefit from keeping it that way.</p><p>The newly arrived expat, having read three articles about &#8220;escaping the rat race,&#8221; often fails to notice that he has not escaped the rat race at all; he has merely joined a slower rat race.</p><p>And because the visible costs remain lower, he continues to believe he is winning, even as his days become increasingly consumed by solving problems that did not exist in the expensive country he left, which is, admittedly, an awkward detail for the personal brand.</p><p>The truly expensive thing about friction is that it forces your life to become more managerial.</p><p>You manage the house, the paperwork, the staff, the renewals, the translations, the insurance exclusions, the school communications, the bank moods, the tax questions, and the thousand little gaps between how things are advertised and how they actually behave once you have paid.</p><p>A country can be low-cost and still quietly turn you into the unpaid operations director of your own survival.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Cost Is in Making It Work</strong></h3><p>The serious expat eventually learns that affordability is not what something costs on the day you buy it, but what it costs to make the entire life around it work without becoming permanently hostage to surprise, improvisation, and people who keep saying &#8220;usually no problem&#8221; in a tone that suggests there is already a problem.</p><p>A cheap apartment is not cheap if it requires a car, a generator, a lawyer, and a school commute long enough to change a child&#8217;s personality.</p><p>A cheap country is not cheap if every year requires professional intervention to remain legal, every banking relationship feels provisional, and every trip home costs enough to remind you that distance is a recurring charge.</p><p>Affordability has to include the boring things, which is why people avoid doing it properly.</p><p>It has to include the cost of uncertainty, the cost of replacing convenience, the cost of maintaining standards, the cost of flying out when something goes wrong, the cost of buying imported familiarity because your brave new life apparently still requires the exact cereal your children recognise, and the cost of discovering that &#8220;local price&#8221; is a phrase most easily accessed by people who are, inconveniently, local.</p><p>The commercial question is not whether a country is cheap.</p><p>The commercial question is whether the system you need to live, work, protect your family, stay compliant, access healthcare, educate children, manage money, preserve sanity, and leave cleanly if necessary can be built there at a total cost that still makes sense once the romance has been removed.</p><p>That is a less sexy calculation, which is why it is useful.</p><p>The best expats do not simply compare rent between two cities and declare themselves financially reborn; they examine the full operating environment of a life and ask what must be bought, rented, insured, outsourced, tolerated, translated, duplicated, or forgiven in order for the move to function.</p><p>This is the point where the cheap-country conversation becomes more adult, and therefore less popular at dinner.</p><p>Because once you price the whole system, the bargain may still be real, but it becomes a more complicated bargain, one that requires discipline, planning, and enough humility to accept that the locals are not extras in your cost-of-living fantasy.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, 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https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The cheap-country myth survives because it contains just enough truth to be dangerous.</p><ul><li><p>Yes, the rent may be lower. </p></li><li><p>Yes, the dinner may be cheaper. </p></li><li><p>Yes, the daily pleasures may feel absurdly accessible compared with the country you left behind.</p></li></ul><p>But life abroad is not purchased one dinner at a time.</p><p>It is purchased through systems, through competence, through reliability, through legal standing, through family stability, through the ability to get things done without needing a local priest, a cousin, a stamp, and three separate WhatsApp confirmations from men who all use the same profile photo.</p><p>The smart expat does not sneer at cheap places, nor does he worship them.</p><p>He respects them enough to stop treating them as discount versions of somewhere else, and he respects his own money enough to calculate the full cost of converting a beautiful place into a workable life.</p><p>The expensive mistake is not moving to a cheaper country.</p><p>The expensive mistake is believing the country became cheap because you stopped counting.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we support employers, founders, and expat professionals with practical HR and Indonesia market advice. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to understand the wider people, compliance, and commercial realities of building a life or workforce in Indonesia.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/cheap-countries-cost-expats-more?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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The real risk is the unclear, awkward, or defensive story candidates tell around them.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/how-to-talk-about-a-career-gap</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/how-to-talk-about-a-career-gap</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 23:01:32 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dWTf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9871eaf8-50dc-4b98-9ade-23576d511419_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dWTf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9871eaf8-50dc-4b98-9ade-23576d511419_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dWTf!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9871eaf8-50dc-4b98-9ade-23576d511419_1792x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dWTf!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9871eaf8-50dc-4b98-9ade-23576d511419_1792x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dWTf!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9871eaf8-50dc-4b98-9ade-23576d511419_1792x1024.png 1272w, 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Career gaps make people nervous.</p><p>Not always because the gap itself is catastrophic. Quite often, the gap is ordinary. Life happened. A company folded. Or someone needed care.</p><p>The trouble usually starts when someone asks about the gap and the candidate suddenly behaves as though they have been stopped at customs with several endangered reptiles in their hand luggage.</p><p>&#8220;So, I noticed there&#8217;s a gap here&#8230;&#8221;</p><p>A simple sentence. Five seconds long. Entirely survivable.</p><p>And yet, for many people, this is the moment the interview room becomes a courtroom, the CV becomes evidence, and the candidate&#8217;s mouth becomes a badly briefed legal team.</p><p>What follows is rarely a clean explanation.</p><p>Some people go vague. They &#8220;took some time&#8221; and &#8220;explored a few things&#8221; and &#8220;reassessed priorities,&#8221; which may be true, but also sounds like they joined a mysterious woodland organisation with a charismatic treasurer.</p><p>Some people go too detailed. Suddenly the hiring manager knows the emotional temperature of March, the exact moment trust broke down with a former employer.</p><p>Others become suspiciously positive. The gap was &#8220;a gift,&#8221; apparently. A beautiful opportunity to reconnect with purpose. Very moving. Very LinkedIn. Very much the sort of sentence that makes everyone in the room cringe.</p><p>Most career gaps do not need this much production value.</p><p>They need a clear expectation, in a calm tone, with a quick return to what you bring to the table.</p><p>That is the whole job.</p><p>Because the gap itself is rarely the most damaging thing. The damaging thing is the strange fog that gathers around it when someone has not decided what it means.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Silence Makes the Gap Look Bigger</strong></h3><p>There is a particular confidence some candidates place in silence.</p><p>They leave the gap sitting there on the CV, unlabelled and unexplained, hoping no one will notice that a year has quietly been removed.</p><p>This is ambitious.</p><p>Hiring managers may miss many things. They may miss nuance. They may miss achievement.</p><p>They will not miss that 2022 has vanished from your CV.</p><p>And when people spot an unexplained gap, they do what people always do with missing information: they start decorating it with their own anxieties.</p><p>A gap with no explanation becomes a story-shaped hole.</p><p>The employer is not necessarily assuming disaster. But they are wondering. That is enough.</p><p>The candidate thinks silence makes the gap smaller. Usually, it makes the gap louder.</p><p>The better move is to make the gap plain enough to become boring.</p><p>Boring is underrated. Boring is your friend. Boring is the blessed state in which an interviewer hears the explanation and feels no desire to pick up a spade.</p><p>For example, a simple line such as:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;After my last role ended, I took a short period to reset and focus my next move. I&#8217;m now clear that I want to return to work where I can bring structure and commercial judgment to messy operational problems.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>This does enough.</p><p>It does not beg. It does not invite the interviewer to sit beside a metaphorical campfire while you explain how the experience changed you.</p><p>It just gives the gap a name, puts a fence around it, and moves the conversation back toward value.</p><p>That is what people forget. You are not trying to make the gap inspirational. You are trying to stop it becoming suspicious.</p><p>There is a world of difference.</p><p>Inspirational gap explanations tend to smell fishy.</p><p>A useful gap explanation is clear, accounted for, and nobody wants to spend the afternoon discussing it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Be Clear, Not Confessional</strong></h3><p>Honesty is good.</p><p>Honesty with no editorial control is how interviews go south.</p><p>There is a dangerous point in any conversation where a candidate, determined not to seem evasive, begins explaining everything. Not just the relevant thing. Everything. The professional context, the emotional context, the domestic context, and several supporting characters who did not consent to being included.</p><p>At first, the hiring manager is listening.</p><p>Then they are nodding.</p><p>Then they are trapped.</p><p>This is the moment the gap has stopped being a gap and become a documentary.</p><p>The candidate often believes this level of disclosure proves sincerity. Sometimes it does. More often, it proves that the story has not yet been processed enough to be useful.</p><p>You can say:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I took time out for family reasons. That situation is now stable, and I&#8217;m ready to commit properly to the right role.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>That is honest.</p><p>It is also merciful.</p><p>No one needs the extended cut unless the extended cut is directly relevant to the job, which it usually is not. The interviewer does not require your entire emotional archive. They require enough information to stop worrying.</p><p>The same applies to redundancy.</p><ul><li><p>You do not need to narrate the decline of the business.</p></li><li><p>You do not need to explain that leadership had lost its way, </p></li></ul><p>&#8230;although they may well have lost it in spectacular fashion,</p><p>You can simply say the role ended as part of a restructure, then move to what you are looking for now.</p><p>A gap explanation should create confidence, not intimacy.</p><p>This is where many people get it wrong. They confuse vulnerability with usefulness. They think the choice is either sterile corporate nonsense or complete emotional exposure when it&#8217;s not.</p><p>There is a middle ground. It is called <strong>being a grown adult with boundaries</strong>.</p><p>The best explanations are candid, brief, and slightly dull. Not dull because you are dull. Dull because the gap has been handled.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>What They Really Want to Know Is Simple</strong></h3><p>When a candidate hears, &#8220;Can you talk me through this gap?&#8221; they often hear something much nastier.</p><p>They hear:</p><p>&#8220;Please explain why society temporarily stopped purchasing your labour.&#8221;</p><p>A career gap can touch all the tender places: status, usefulness, confidence, money, identity, the fear that everyone else has remained sleek and employable while you have been at home becoming familiar with the ceiling.</p><p>So the question feels personal.</p><p>But from the employer&#8217;s side, the question is usually more practical.</p><p>They are trying to work out whether you are ready to work, whether the situation behind the gap is likely to affect the role, and whether your professional edge is still intact.</p><p>This is useful, because once you understand the real concern, you can stop answering the wrong question.</p><p>You do not need to defend your human worth. Nobody has the budget for that, and frankly the interview slot is only forty-five minutes.</p><p>You need to show that the gap has an explanation, that the explanation is under control, and that the next move makes sense.</p><p>That is why vague language creates problems.</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve just been seeing what&#8217;s out there&#8221; sounds harmless, but it can suggest drift.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;I needed time to think&#8221; may be true, but if left there, it hangs in the air.</p></li><li><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m open to lots of things&#8221; seems flexible, but often sounds unfocused.</p></li></ul><p>Employers are not famous for generous interpretation. They are busy, risk-aware, and frequently traumatised by previous hiring mistakes involving someone who interviewed beautifully and then turned out to be a disaster.</p><p>So they look for signs.</p><p>Calm helps. Specificity helps. A clear reason for the next move helps.</p><p>You want the employer to feel that the gap belongs to the past.</p><p>Something like this is enough:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;After that role ended, I took time to be deliberate about the next step rather than jumping straight into the wrong thing. The work I want to return to is very clear now: solving operational and commercial problems where things are complex, under-structured, and need better judgment.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>That answer gives the gap a purpose without turning it into a spiritual awakening, and makes the future more interesting than the hiatus.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Answer It, Then Move On</strong></h3><p>The biggest mistake is letting the gap become the main character.</p><p>Once that happens, the conversation becomes strangely difficult to rescue. The interviewer asks one timeline question and suddenly the whole room is inside the gap.</p><p>You should not begin telling everyone how hard the last year has been and how much you learned about resilience from a podcast.</p><p>You want:</p><ul><li><p>Here is the context.</p></li><li><p>That period is dealt with.</p></li><li><p>This is what I am focused on now.</p></li></ul><p>The final part matters most.</p><p>A gap explanation that ends with the gap leaves the interviewer staring at the gap.</p><p>A gap explanation that ends with value redirects the conversation.</p><p>For instance:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I took time out after redundancy to reset properly. What became clear is that I do my best work where there&#8217;s a messy commercial problem, unclear ownership, and a need for someone to bring structure without turning everything into a six-month governance opera.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>This is better than a long explanation because it gives the employer something to buy.</p><p>A hiring manager cannot buy your difficult year.</p><p>They can buy your judgment. Your experience. Your ability to walk into chaos and make it less annoying.</p><p>That is where the conversation needs to go.</p><p>This sounds obvious, but under pressure people forget. They become so focused on making the gap acceptable that they forget to make themselves compelling.</p><p>They spend the answer trying to prove they are not a risk, which is understandable, but insufficient. At some point, the employer needs to remember why you are useful.</p><p>A good gap answer reassures and sells, without appearing to sell. It closes the open loop and then puts your value back on the table like it has been there the whole time.</p><p>The tone should be calm enough to suggest you have not been emotionally living inside this answer for six months. Even if you have. Well, especially if you have.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A career gap does not need to ruin the story.</p><p>But it does need managing, because unmanaged gaps attract drama. They become bigger in the silence. Stranger in the vagueness. Heavier in the over-explanation.</p><p>The answer is not to pretend the gap never happened. Nor is the answer to turn the gap into a personal growth keynote. Most employers can tolerate life happening. Fewer can tolerate being trapped inside your rebirth narrative before they have even discussed salary.</p><p>The move is to:.</p><ul><li><p>Name it without flinching.</p></li><li><p>Frame it without decorating it.</p></li><li><p>Move back to value before the room starts treating your timeline like a crime scene.</p></li></ul><p>That is enough.</p><p>The goal is not to make the gap impressive. The goal is to make it unthreatening.</p><p>Handled well, a career gap becomes a small piece of context. A line in the story. A thing that happened.</p><p>Handled badly, it puts on a cape, grabs a microphone, and starts introducing itself before you do.</p><p>Do not give it that kind of platform.</p><p>You have more useful things to be known for.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://careercandour.com/">Career Candou</a>r we work 1:1 with mid-career professionals to build better career narratives and stronger positioning. Career gaps. Redundancy. Time out. Messy transitions. We help you explain the difficult bits clearly, without apology, or oversharing. 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>eFishery was supposed to be one of Indonesia&#8217;s great technology success stories: agritech, financial inclusion, aquaculture, farmers, data, devices, the whole morally laminated pitch deck. It was valued at more than US$1 billion, backed by names that startup founders usually whisper with the reverence of temple bells: SoftBank, Temasek, Peak XV, others. Then the floor gave way.</p><p>The company&#8217;s accounts were allegedly inflated on a staggering scale. An internal probe estimated revenue had been <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-21/softbank-backed-fish-startup-allegedly-faked-most-of-its-sales">inflated by nearly US$600 million in the nine months through September 2024</a>, meaning more than <strong>75% of reported figures may have been fake</strong>. The company&#8217;s collapse has been described as a roughly US$300 million scandal that wiped out one of Southeast Asia&#8217;s brightest startup stories.</p><p>And now, former CEO and founder Gibran Huzaifah has been <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-29/founder-gets-9-years-in-jail-for-300-million-indonesia-scandal?srnd=phx-technology-startups">sentenced to nine years in prison by the Bandung District Court</a>. He was found guilty in a case involving embezzlement, manipulation of financial reports, and money laundering, alongside two other former executives. The sentence came with a Rp1 billion fine, and was slightly lighter than the prosecution&#8217;s 10-year demand.</p><p>Nine years. For a scandal that helped kneecap Indonesian startups, embarrassed global investors, gutted employees, burned credibility, and handed every regional cynic a golden talking point.</p><p>Is nine years normal? Legally, maybe it&#8217;s not absurd. But morally, politically, and ecosystemically? The jury&#8217;s out.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>From Unicorn Story to Criminal Case</h3><p>eFishery began as the kind of company investors love because it sounds both futuristic and socially useful. It made automated fish-feeding devices, then expanded into a broader aquaculture platform: feed, financing, market access, digital tools, the full &#8220;we are not just a startup, we are infrastructure&#8221; play.</p><p>For years, the story worked. </p><ul><li><p>Farmers were being digitised. </p></li><li><p>Feed efficiency was being improved. </p></li></ul><p>Indonesia had a homegrown unicorn in a sector that was not just another venture capital backed food delivery app.</p><p>Then came the familiar sequence: </p><ol><li><p>Whistleblower, </p></li><li><p>Internal investigation, </p></li><li><p>Suspension, </p></li><li><p>Collapse, </p></li><li><p>Criminal proceedings, </p></li><li><p>Courtroom, </p></li><li><p>Sentencing.</p></li></ol><p>The alleged fraud was first reported in <strong>December 2024</strong>, and later Gibran was <a href="https://money.kompas.com/read/2024/12/18/061500626/kronologi-gibran-huzaifah-dicopot-sebagai-ceo-efishery-diawali-investigasi">removed as CEO</a> following an investor-led financial investigation into alleged misuse of funds.</p><p>By <strong>January 2025</strong>, a draft internal investigation by FTI Consulting estimated eFishery may have inflated revenue by almost US$600 million in the nine months through September 2024.</p><p>In <strong>April 2025</strong>, Bloomberg published the now-infamous account in which Gibran described how he had falsified results. The narrative? </p><ul><li><p>Cash running low, </p></li><li><p>Spreadsheet open, </p></li><li><p>Fake numbers inserted, </p></li><li><p>Investors reassured, </p></li><li><p>Doom postponed. </p></li></ul><p>By <strong>August 2025</strong>, Indonesian police had detained Gibran and two other former executives.</p><p>Then, on <strong>April 29, 2026</strong>, the Bandung District Court sentenced Gibran to nine years in prison. Indonesian outlets reported that he was convicted alongside the two other defendants, fined Rp1 billion, and given a sentence one year below the prosecution&#8217;s request.</p><p>So the public timeline is roughly this:</p><p><strong>2018:</strong> according to Bloomberg&#8217;s account, Gibran began falsifying numbers when eFishery was under severe cash pressure.</p><p><strong>2020&#8211;2024:</strong> some Indonesian reporting says the conduct at issue in court covered this broader period.</p><p><strong>December 2024:</strong> investor investigation and removal from CEO role.</p><p><strong>January 2025:</strong> the preliminary internal probe&#8217;s finds large-scale revenue inflation.</p><p><strong>April 2025:</strong> Gibran gives his public account to Bloomberg.</p><p><strong>August 2025:</strong> police detain Gibran and two other former executives.</p><p><strong>April 2026</strong>: sentencing: nine years, Rp1 billion fine.</p><p>It is the sort of timeline that should be taught in business school.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/bd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196186239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!bTKy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbd3d3b15-08e2-411a-b079-e71f6aa066b5_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>What We Know About How It Worked</h3><p>At the centre of the scandal is a simple question: were the numbers real?</p><p>Investigators found large-scale inflation of revenue. The alleged structure involved manipulated financial reports, fake or inflated transactions, and the appearance of business activity that did not correspond to the underlying economic reality.</p><p>Gibran admitted manipulating financial statements but denied stealing money. He also admitted to manipulating the financial statements, while denying theft.</p><p>That distinction matters legally, but from an ecosystem trust perspective it&#8217;s about as graceful as a man saying: </p><p><strong>&#8220;Your Honour, I did burn down the house&#8230; but I did not personally keep the smoke.&#8221;</strong></p><p>Private conversations with former employees point to a darker possibility: that <strong>there may have been awareness internally of &#8220;two sets of books,&#8221;</strong> and possibly some degree of knowledge beyond the immediate executives. That is not something one can state as fact without documents, testimony, or public record. But it is exactly the kind of question this case leaves hanging in the air.</p><p>Because when a company allegedly inflates revenue at that scale, over that period, with global investors, internal finance teams, auditors, management layers, board reporting, lender relationships, customer data, and operational dashboards, the fairy tale version becomes hard to swallow. The fairy tale version says: one founder, one laptop, one spreadsheet, one moral collapse, many highly educated, innocent adults deceived by Excel.</p><p>Possible? Yes.</p><p>Comfortable? Very.</p><p>Complete? Hmmm.</p><p>There are several unanswered questions:</p><ol><li><p>Who inside the company had access to the real operating data?</p></li><li><p>Who saw discrepancies between cash, revenue, receivables, inventory, device deployment, farmer activity, and financing flows?</p></li><li><p>Who signed off on investor materials?</p></li><li><p>Who conducted diligence, and what did they actually verify?</p></li><li><p>Were red flags missed because they were hidden, or because nobody was incentivised to find them?</p></li><li><p>Did anyone outside management have enough information to suspect the story was too beautiful to be entirely biological?</p></li></ol><p>The public record gives us convictions of Gibran and two former executives. It does not give us a full map of organisational knowledge. That absence is not proof of a wider conspiracy. But it is also not proof of innocence-by-omission for everyone else.</p><p>One of the most absurd modern customs is watching investors describe themselves as visionary &#8220;deep diligence&#8221; machines when things go well, and as startled woodland animals when things go badly.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196186239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!vJou!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F05a09d35-1f39-4415-8f0b-ca1e354386fc_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Bloomberg Apology That Made Things Worse</h3><p>The Bloomberg interview became its own subplot because of how bizarrely confessional it appeared. Public excerpts and summaries describe Gibran explaining how he faked numbers under pressure, after years of trying to build the company. The framing had biography, hardship, ambition, desperation, and spiritual theatre.</p><p>The problem with founder apologies is that they often arrive dressed as morality plays. </p><ul><li><p>&#8220;I came from nothing.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>&#8220;I slept on floors.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>&#8220;I wanted to help farmers.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>&#8220;I was under pressure.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>&#8220;Everyone else was growing fast.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>&#8220;I made one mistake.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>&#8220;I take responsibility.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>The PR playbook converts fraud into tragedy, tragedy into complexity, complexity into sympathy, and sympathy into reputational salvage.</p><p>But the public is not stupid. The public has seen this film. The public has also, in many cases, been under pressure without inventing hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.</p><p>Invoking hardship or religion in proximity to a financial scandal is especially volatile in Indonesia because it can read more like moral laundering. Not money laundering. Moral laundering, where personal piety is placed in the same washing machine as corporate misconduct.</p><p>The <strong>&#8220;I did it because others were doing it&#8221;</strong> flavour of justification is even worse. That defence has a legal tradition stretching from playgrounds to prison cafeterias. <strong>&#8220;Other children were also eating glue&#8221;</strong> is not usually considered a governance framework.</p><p>To be fair, human beings are complicated. Founders under severe pressure make catastrophic decisions. Startup ecosystems worship growth, punish honesty, and reward the founders who can make a hockey-stick chart look like scripture. But sympathy for pressure is not the same as a hall pass for deception.</p><p>If anything, the apology made things worse, because it seemed to confirm the most cynical reading of startup culture: <strong>fake it until you make it</strong>, then if you do not make it, explain that faking it was actually a selfless act of wounded idealism conducted for the farmers, the employees, and the nation.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/c4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196186239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PjVN!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc4a8603b-5ee3-4271-95c6-3e5483627bae_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Nine Years: Enough, or Not Nearly Enough?</h3><p>On one level, the sentence is not obviously outside Indonesia&#8217;s legal architecture. Gibran was convicted under provisions including <a href="https://peraturan.bpk.go.id/Download/287456/UU%20Nomor%201%20Tahun%202023.pdf">Article 374 of the Criminal Code</a>, in conjunction with participation and continuing-offence provisions, and money-laundering allegations. Article 374, embezzlement in office, carries a maximum sentence of five years under the old KUHP framework, while Indonesia&#8217;s money-laundering law can carry much heavier penalties depending on the article applied.</p><p>The prosecution reportedly asked for 10 years; the court gave nine. So this was not a wild discount.</p><p>But that is the legal answer.</p><p>Nine years for a scandal associated with hundreds of millions in investor losses and severe damage to trust in Indonesia&#8217;s startup ecosystem feels underwhelming because the harm was not only monetary. It was reputational. It told foreign investors, local founders, employees, farmers, lenders, and regulators that even a flagship company with elite backers could allegedly operate a financial theatre production at industrial scale.</p><p>That matters. Capital is cowardly. When a visible company collapses like this, the cost is borne by the next honest Indonesian founder trying to raise money and being asked: </p><p><strong>&#8220;Yes, but how do we know this is not another eFishery?&#8221;</strong></p><p>That is the <strong>real damage</strong>.</p><p>So is nine years &#8220;paltry&#8221;? Compared with the legal charges and the prosecutor&#8217;s demand, it may be within the expected zone. Compared with the systemic harm, less so.</p><p>The Rp1 billion fine also looks symbolically bizarre next to the scale of reported losses. A billion rupiah is serious money for a normal person. Against a scandal reported in the hundreds of millions of US dollars&#8230;</p><p>Ultimately, the deeper issue is whether the process has fully exposed the network of knowledge, incentives, negligence, and benefit around the fraud. If the answer is no, then nine years is the curtain.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196186239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eULl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffdbef072-bcea-43ff-b8fa-504a4ca032f4_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Was This Really a One-Man Scandal?</h3><p>The most convenient version of the scandal is that Gibran was the singular architect, beneficiary, villain, and human sacrificial offering. </p><ul><li><p>He falsified the accounts. </p></li><li><p>He misled investors. </p></li><li><p>He destroyed the company. </p></li><li><p>He goes to prison. </p></li><li><p>Lessons are learned. </p></li><li><p>Governance committees are formed. </p></li><li><p>Everyone moves on.</p></li></ul><p>This version gives the public a face. It gives investors closure. It gives regulators a conviction. It gives the startup ecosystem an opportunity to say: </p><p><strong>&#8220;Bad apple. Very sad. Anyway, our next fund closes in Q3.&#8221;</strong></p><p>But large scandals rarely happen in moral isolation.</p><p>A founder may fake numbers. But: </p><ul><li><p>Boards consume numbers. </p></li><li><p>Investors reward numbers. </p></li><li><p>Later-stage investors diligence numbers. </p></li><li><p>Early investors celebrate markups based on numbers. </p></li><li><p>Lenders assess numbers. </p></li><li><p>Employees are hired because of numbers. </p></li><li><p>PR teams broadcast numbers. </p></li></ul><p>If there really were two sets of books known to multiple people, as some privately claim, then the essential scandal is not just fraud. </p><ul><li><p>Who knew enough to worry? </p></li><li><p>Who suspected but stayed quiet? </p></li><li><p>Who benefited from the valuation uplift? </p></li><li><p>Who had incentives not to ask the ugly question until they had transferred risk to someone else?</p></li></ul><p>Again: without public evidence, names cannot and should not be thrown around. But the point stands. A justice process that stops at the most visible executive may punish the act while preserving the architecture that made the act useful.</p><p>Sophisticated investors are not passive widows in Victorian novels, fainting upon discovering that the charming man with the moustache lied about the estate. They are institutions with analysts, lawyers, forensic accountants, data rooms, board seats, and information rights.</p><p>If they were deceived, that matters. If they missed obvious signs, that matters too. If anyone knew or suspected more than they later admitted, that matters most of all.</p><p>And yet the public accountability appears off. The founder goes to prison. The investors take write-downs, issue sober statements, maybe improve diligence checklists, and continue being invited to panels about &#8220;Building Trust in Southeast Asia&#8217;s Digital Economy.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196186239?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!B0bM!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fab874339-677d-4d6b-8483-e2b7c134d39c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The eFishery scandal is not just about one founder cooking the books. It is about a regional startup ecosystem that spent years rewarding growth stories so aggressively that reality became optional.</p><p>Gibran Huzaifah has now been sentenced to nine years in prison.  It is not nothing. But for many observers, especially those who believe the scandal involved broader awareness, deeper incentives, and possibly people who will never see the inside of a courtroom, the sentence feels incomplete.</p><p>One founder. Two executives. Hundreds of millions in reported damage. Investors embarrassed but apparently not pursued. A public apology that tried to turn a governance disaster into a personal pilgrimage. And now, perhaps, an ending.</p><p>But it should not be an ending.</p><p>The real test for Indonesia is not whether it can jail one fallen founder. It is whether it can show founders, investors, boards, auditors, and executives that financial fiction will be met with full-spectrum consequence.</p><p>If the lesson of eFishery is simply &#8220;do not be the person left holding the spreadsheet when the music stops,&#8221; then nothing has been fixed. The ecosystem will simply become more careful about optics, more expensive in diligence, more cynical in private, and more fluent in the language of &#8220;governance enhancements.&#8221;</p><p>The scandal set Indonesia back because it made the honest people look na&#239;ve and the sceptics look correct. Restoring confidence requires showing that the law can follow the incentives, not just the individual.</p><p>Until then, eFishery remains the perfect startup morality tale: a company that promised to feed fish more efficiently, while the adults in the room somehow failed to notice that the biggest thing being fed was the valuation.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we support companies, funds, and leadership teams with local insight, market intelligence, and strategic advice. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> if you're investing, scaling, or entering, or partnering in Indonesia to understand what&#8217;s really happening on the ground.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/efishery-scandal-fraud-fallout-9-year-sentence?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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They define roles clearly, source precisely, and move fast on strong candidates]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/more-applicants-make-hiring-worse</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/more-applicants-make-hiring-worse</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 23:01:39 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BMjH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45bc34b8-c139-490d-84d8-24040db833f6_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!BMjH!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45bc34b8-c139-490d-84d8-24040db833f6_1792x1024.png" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>There is a moment in startup hiring when everyone briefly loses their mind.</p><ul><li><p>The job goes live. </p></li><li><p>Applications start arriving. </p></li><li><p>Someone checks the ATS and sees 312 people have applied. </p></li><li><p>A founder screenshots the dashboard. </p></li><li><p>The recruiter says, &#8220;We&#8217;re getting strong traction.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>An investor replies with a flame emoji. </p></li></ul><p>For twelve beautiful minutes, the company feels magnetic.</p><p>Then someone opens the profiles.</p><ul><li><p>A candidate in the wrong country.</p></li><li><p>A graduate applying for Head of Sales.</p></li><li><p>A former consultant who appears to have pasted the company name into a universal cover letter.</p></li><li><p>A senior operator who looks excellent, except they want twice the salary, fully remote, and a team of six.</p></li><li><p>Someone who has applied to Product, Finance, Marketing, and Engineering, presumably to keep their options open.</p></li></ul><p>Still, the number looks good.</p><p>Applicant volume gives startups the warm sensation of progress. It fills dashboards, and creates talking points. But a full funnel can quickly become an administrative swamp where good candidates get buried, weak candidates get entertained, and hiring managers lose the will to open another CV.</p><p>The smartest startups are not impressed by the size of the crowd. They care who is in the room, why they are there, and whether the conversation is worth having.</p><p>That sounds obvious, yet it is ignored constantly.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>Application Volume Is a Vanity Metric</h3><p>&#8220;Applications are up 43%&#8221; sounds useful in a leadership meeting.</p><p>It suggests demand, momentum, and that the market has noticed. Unfortunately, it may only mean the role was written broadly enough that half the internet thought, &#8220;Sure, why not?&#8221;</p><p>This happens often in startups because the roles are rarely clean. The job description says &#8220;Growth Lead.&#8221; The founder means &#8220;someone who can fix positioning, build pipeline, run partnerships, write copy, understand data, challenge strategy, and update HubSpot.&#8221;</p><p>Then hundreds of people apply because nobody can quite tell what the job is.</p><p>That is where volume becomes dangerous, because it doesn&#8217;t create clarity. Every profile becomes a debate, and every borderline candidate gets another look</p><p>Soon the process is full of maybes.</p><ul><li><p>Maybe they could stretch.</p></li><li><p>Maybe the background is relevant.</p></li><li><p>Maybe we should speak to them.</p></li><li><p>Maybe the CV undersells them.</p></li><li><p>Maybe they are not right for this role, but could be useful for another vague future thing nobody owns.</p></li></ul><p>&#8220;Maybe&#8221; sounds open-minded, but usually, it means the team has not agreed what good looks like.</p><p>A sharp role should repel some candidates. The right description should make certain people lean in and others close the tab. If nobody opts out, the company may have written employer-brand soup.</p><p>Startups love phrases like &#8220;fast-paced environment,&#8221; &#8220;high ownership,&#8221; and &#8220;wear many hats.&#8221; Candidates have learned to translate them.</p><ul><li><p><strong>Fast-paced environment</strong>: we do not plan well.</p></li><li><p><strong>High ownership</strong>: responsibility without authority.</p></li><li><p><strong>Wear many hats:</strong> the org chart is decorative.</p></li><li><p><strong>Competitive salary:</strong> please do not ask yet.</p></li><li><p><strong>Mission-driven:</strong> cash may require flexibility.</p></li></ul><p>The broader the language, the broader the applicant pool. The broader the pool, the more time the company spends filtering people it should never have attracted.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!w-s3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe341bd7e-55ad-442b-a4c5-705efc44798e_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Best Candidates Are Not Applying</h3><p>Somewhere out there, the perfect candidate is refreshing job boards, waiting for your startup to post &#8220;Founding Commercial Lead.&#8221; They see the role, feel a mysterious emotional connection to your category-defining platform, and submit a thoughtful application before returning to their evening routine of reading SaaS pricing pages for pleasure.</p><p>This person is <strong>rare</strong>.</p><p>The strongest candidates are usually employed, valued, slightly frustrated, and not actively applying. They may be open to the right conversation, but they are not sitting on your careers page hoping for a role involving &#8220;zero-to-one execution.&#8221;</p><p>They need to be found carefully.</p><ul><li><p>Not sprayed. </p></li><li><p>Not harvested. </p></li><li><p>Not added to an automated sequence beginning, &#8220;I was impressed by your background.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Good candidates recognise thoughtful outreach, and can tell when a company has understood their work. They can also tell when their profile appeared because it contained &#8220;B2B,&#8221; &#8220;RevOps,&#8221; and &#8220;Series B.&#8221;</p><p>Useful sourcing starts before anyone opens LinkedIn.</p><p>Not with, &#8220;We need a Head of Marketing.&#8221;</p><p>Rather, &#8220;We need someone who has created demand in a market that does not yet understand the category, can produce commercially useful positioning, and has built pipeline without a large team or agency dependency.&#8221;</p><ul><li><p>Maybe the right person is not a Head of Marketing yet. </p></li><li><p>Maybe they are the second-in-command who did the work while their boss spoke on panels. </p></li><li><p>Maybe they come from an unglamorous company where the constraints were brutal and the learning was real. </p></li><li><p>Maybe their title is less impressive because they have been too busy shipping to manage their LinkedIn like a media business.</p></li></ul><p>Pedigree can help, but it can also sedate judgment. &#8220;Ex-Stripe&#8221; sounds reassuring. So does &#8220;ex-Meta.&#8221; Fine. Speak to them. But the logo did not do the work. The person did.</p><p>The useful question is what they actually carried.</p><ul><li><p>Did they build, or observe?</p></li><li><p>Did they own outcomes, or attend meetings near outcomes?</p></li><li><p>Did they create motion, or inherit it?</p></li><li><p>Did they survive ambiguity, or escalate it?</p></li></ul><p>A good approach does not simply say, &#8220;Here is a role.&#8221;</p><p>It says, in effect: &#8220;This problem looks unusually close to the work you are good at.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uZEK!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3246bc16-2455-4eaf-9161-14e9dd450dee_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Put the Deal-Breakers Upfront</h3><p>Startup hiring contains a remarkable amount of preventable disappointment.</p><ul><li><p>The candidate wants remote. The role is office-first.</p></li><li><p>The candidate wants strategy. The company needs execution.</p></li><li><p>The candidate wants a team. The company has a laptop&#8230; and belief.</p></li><li><p>The candidate wants market compensation. The company has &#8220;meaningful equity.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>The candidate wants clear reporting lines. The founder says, &#8220;You&#8217;ll work closely with everyone.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>These issues are often discovered live, during a cheerful introductory call where both sides spend the first seven minutes pretending the weather matters.</p><p>The obvious filters should appear early: compensation range, location expectations, seniority, reporting line, stage reality, team size, actual work, and the messy bits. Especially the messy bits.</p><p>Startups often hide the messy bits because they want to keep candidates interested. This is understandable and usually foolish.</p><ul><li><p>If the role is chaotic, say so intelligently. </p></li><li><p>If the company is still finding go-to-market motion, do not describe the role as &#8220;scaling a proven engine.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>If the person will build the function from scratch, do not imply they are inheriting infrastructure. </p></li><li><p>If the salary is below market, do not wait until the final round to unveil the character test.</p></li></ul><p>Strong candidates can handle reality. Many prefer it. What they dislike is being sold a polished version of the role, then discovering the real one hiding behind a curtain in round four.</p><p>The right candidate may actually want the hard version. Some people like building from mess. Some like ambiguity. Some like being early. But they want to know which type of chaos they are buying.</p><p>There is <strong>useful chaos</strong>, where the market is early, the category is forming, the work is hard, and the upside is real.</p><p>There is also <strong>stupid chaos</strong>, where nobody owns the number, the founder changes the brief every Thursday, and the last three people left for reasons described only as &#8220;fit.&#8221;</p><p>Candidates <strong>deserve to know the difference</strong>.</p><p>Letting the wrong people opt out early is healthy. A person who declines after seeing the role clearly was not lost.</p><p>A clean no after ten minutes beats a reluctant maybe after five rounds.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:95063,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!XhqP!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6b03a1c6-e935-40a4-af23-c7d75c516639_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Case for Fewer, Better Candidates</h3><p>A smaller funnel makes startups nervous because it removes the narcotic effect of abundance.</p><p>With a bloated funnel, everyone can relax. There are always more candidates somewhere. More profiles to review. More screens to schedule. More &#8220;interesting people&#8221; drifting through the system.</p><p>A smaller funnel creates pressure.</p><p>Here are six serious people.</p><ul><li><p>Are they right?</p></li><li><p>Can we evaluate them properly?</p></li><li><p>Can we move quickly?</p></li><li><p>Can we sell the role?</p></li><li><p>Can we make a decision without inventing three more stakeholders?</p></li></ul><p>A sharp process can handle a smaller funnel because it has confidence. The role is clear. Interviewers know what they are assessing. Feedback is specific. The company understands the candidate&#8217;s motivations. Follow-up happens quickly because someone owns it.</p><p>A weak process needs volume because <strong>volume hides indecision</strong>.</p><p>If nobody agrees on the target, more candidates buy time. If the hiring manager cannot articulate concerns, more interviews create the illusion of diligence. If the founder is secretly waiting for perfection, more pipeline keeps the fantasy alive.</p><p>The perfect candidate, for clarity, is usually a composite sketch drawn by five people with incompatible expectations.</p><ul><li><p>Strategic but tactical. </p></li><li><p>Senior but affordable. </p></li><li><p>Independent but collaborative. </p></li><li><p>Experienced but not set in their ways. </p></li><li><p>Ambitious but not political. </p></li><li><p>Commercial but product-minded. </p></li><li><p>Available immediately but currently successful.</p></li></ul><p>This imaginary person ruins hiring processes.</p><p>Meanwhile, a very good candidate waits six days for feedback and quietly accepts another offer.</p><p>Slow feedback says something. Repeated questions say something. Vague answers say something. Interviewers who have not read the CV say something. A founder arriving late and calling it &#8220;back-to-back&#8221; says something extremely startup.</p><p>A smaller, sharper funnel lets the company build conviction deliberately. The interviews connect. The story stays consistent. The role gets clearer, not blurrier. The candidate feels the company has actually thought about them.</p><p>Startups cannot always offer the highest cash, the cleanest structure, or the safest path. They can offer clarity, speed, access, ownership, and a problem worth caring about.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:null,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_fKJ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F826b457d-7ebd-4bea-b477-4dadb77cb27c_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The hiring funnel has become a comfort object.</p><p>Founders like looking at it because it suggests control. Recruiters like filling it because it proves activity. Hiring managers like knowing there are more people to meet because decisions can be postponed until &#8220;we&#8217;ve seen more of the market.&#8221;</p><p>The market continues without them.</p><p>Strong candidates do not wait patiently while a team calibrates its feelings. They move. They compare. They lose interest. They notice when the story changes. They notice when simple questions get vague answers. They notice when urgency appears only after they mention another offer.</p><p>The answer is not more shouting into the internet.</p><p>More posts. More boosts. More inbound. More applicants. More dashboards. More &#8220;quick chats.&#8221; More flame emojis under hiring announcements.</p><p>That path creates activity, and activity is addictive.</p><p>The better path is less theatrical.</p><ul><li><p>Define the role. </p></li><li><p>Source people who match the real problem. </p></li><li><p>Qualify before calendars fill up. </p></li><li><p>Move quickly with the few candidates who matter. </p></li><li><p>Say the hard parts out loud.</p></li></ul><p>A startup does not need a thousand applicants to make one excellent hire. It needs a clear view of the work, a serious understanding of the market, and the discipline to create conversations worth having.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we help startups and scaleups sharpen role definition, and build targeted search strategies. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to identify and engage the senior operators who are too busy delivering results elsewhere.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/more-applicants-make-hiring-worse?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/nadiem-makarim-chromebook-case-breakdown</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2026 23:01:56 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mHIf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf4089d1-3b92-4d15-8508-b80e107f52ea_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mHIf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fbf4089d1-3b92-4d15-8508-b80e107f52ea_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Whenever a well-connected, well-spoken, English-presenting, startup-adjacent figure is accused of something serious, there is a genre of Indonesian public commentary that emerges. Overnight, LinkedIn becomes the Constitutional Court, Instagram Stories become evidentiary hearings, and old school friends begin issuing jurisprudence from the annals of &#8220;I know him personally.&#8221;</p><p>The Nadiem Makarim Chromebook case has become exactly that kind of spectacle.</p><p>To be clear from the start: <strong>this is not an article arguing that Nadiem is guilty. Nor is it an article arguing that he is innocent</strong>. That is the court&#8217;s job.</p><p>This is about how we should think about the process, the evidence environment, the public narratives, and the very human urge to turn complex corruption trials into morality plays starring either &#8220;visionary reformer destroyed by politics&#8221; or &#8220;tech bro finally caught.&#8221;</p><p>What we do know is that prosecutors allege the Chromebook procurement caused state losses in the region of Rp2.1 trillion, including alleged overpricing and allegedly unnecessary Chrome Device Management procurement. The prosecution theory is that <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/ex-indonesian-minister-makarim-faces-graft-charges-over-google-laptop-2026-01-05/">Nadiem allegedly steered specifications toward Google&#8217;s Chrome ecosystem and personally benefited</a>, while the defence says he divested before becoming minister, did not profit, and was not directly involved in contracting decisions.</p><p>So yes, there may be politics. Indonesia is not a Swiss laboratory. But also yes: there may be smoke.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>The Problem with &#8220;I Know Him&#8221;</h3><p>The most exhausting thing about this case has not been the trial. It has been watching people announce &#8220;the truth&#8221; with the confidence of someone who read three carousel posts and once met a Google director at a panel discussion.</p><p>The pro-Nadiem public line often goes something like this: </p><ol><li><p>He is a reformer; reformers make enemies; therefore this must be political. SIPLah and ARKAS threatened entrenched interests; therefore the Chromebook case is revenge. </p></li><li><p>The prosecution had more time and more witnesses; therefore the trial is unfair. </p></li><li><p>Google executives denied wrongdoing; therefore there is no wrongdoing. </p></li><li><p>Procurement oversight was invited; therefore corruption is impossible. </p></li><li><p>Nadiem is rich; therefore he would never want more money.</p></li></ol><p>Some of those points deserve attention. Political prosecution is not impossible. Selective enforcement is a real concern in many democracies, and Indonesia is no exception. The question is how those concerns are being used. Because there is a difference between saying, </p><p>&#8220;We must ensure this prosecution is not politically motivated,&#8221; and saying, </p><p>&#8220;My friend is elegant and once founded a unicorn, therefore the indictment is fiction.&#8221;</p><p>This case did not emerge from thin air. The prosecution&#8217;s theory rests on claims about Chrome OS specifications, alleged state loss, alleged personal benefit, prior technical concerns about internet connectivity, and alleged links between Google&#8217;s investment history and Gojek/GoTo. Whether those claims survive beyond reasonable doubt is another matter. But pretending there is &#8220;nothing there&#8221; is not analysis.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196190370?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!ppPV!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6e7abed6-2eb2-44e2-93ee-901911f394e8_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Where There&#8217;s Smoke&#8230;</h3><p>There is a lazy version of &#8220;no smoke without fire,&#8221; and there is a useful version.</p><p><strong>The lazy version says</strong>: if someone is accused, they must have done it. That is exactly how mobs, authoritarian states, and comment sections reach legal conclusions.</p><p><strong>The useful version says</strong>: if a serious case has made it this far, with indictments, witnesses, alleged loss calculations, institutional scrutiny, and a long paper trail, then it deserves more than fan-club dismissal.</p><p>That matters here because the pre-trial backstory <a href="https://www.detik.com/edu/detikpedia/d-8293482/4-hal-terkuak-dalam-dakwaan-jaksa-di-sidang-kasus-korupsi-chromebook-nadiem-makarim">already contained red flags</a>: </p><ul><li><p>The 2018&#8211;2019 pilot experience with Chromebooks and connectivity limitations; </p></li><li><p>The later movement toward a Chrome OS procurement architecture; civil-society concerns in 2021 about suitability, vendor concentration, public procurement visibility, and internet dependence; </p></li><li><p>BPKP involvement and recommendations on targeting, timing, specifications, and quantities; T</p></li><li><p>he Attorney General&#8217;s Office turning the matter into a formal case. </p></li></ul><p>These facts do not equal guilt. But they do mean the case is not reducible to &#8220;some jealous bureaucrats didn&#8217;t like innovation.&#8221;</p><p>The alleged &#8220;Gojek days&#8221; background is not what the court is trying in the narrow sense. But it appears in the prosecution&#8217;s broader narrative because prosecutors have alleged that Google&#8217;s investment relationship with Gojek/AKAB/GoTo is relevant to motive or benefit. Prosecutors highlighted Google investment into Gojek&#8217;s parent company around the procurement period, while the defence position was that <a href="https://apnews.com/article/281c03632003a8e38076b8502edf7387">Nadiem had divested and was not directly involved in procurement decisions</a>.</p><p>That is exactly the kind of thing serious people should discuss carefully. Not as proof. Not as gossip. Not as &#8220;my venture capital WhatsApp group says&#8230;&#8221; But as context.</p><p>Because yes, wealthy people can still want more money. &#8220;Rich people also enjoy being richer,&#8221; may trouble the LinkedIn motivational ecosystem. But it&#8217;s widely acknowledged.</p><p>That does not mean Nadiem did it. It means &#8220;he didn&#8217;t need the money&#8221; is not a defence.</p><p></p><h3>Corporate Testimony Isn&#8217;t Gospel</h3><p>One of the more amusing subplots is the apparent belief that if Google people say something, it arrives pre-certified by the angels of corporate governance.</p><p>Former Google executives testified by Zoom from Singapore and <a href="https://apnews.com/article/5526609dd100adc95b5609bedc529edb">denied that Google&#8217;s investment in GoTo was connected to the Chromebook procurement</a>.</p><p>That is important. It may help the defence. It may weaken part of the prosecution&#8217;s theory. It deserves to be taken seriously.</p><p>But &#8220;Google executives denied involvement&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;all questions are now resolved, please pass Go and collect $200&#8221;</p><ul><li><p>Companies deny things. </p></li><li><p>Executives deny things. </p></li><li><p>Prosecutors test those denials. </p></li><li><p>Defence lawyers exploit weak testing. </p></li><li><p>Judges decide what has weight. </p></li></ul><p>This is what trials are for.</p><p>And let us remember that large technology and software companies are not inherently incapable of corruption or misconduct. SAP, for example, <a href="https://www.sec.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2024-4">agreed in 2024 to pay more than $220 million to resolve U.S. investigations into foreign bribery schemes</a>, including <a href="https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/tech/20240115142129-37-505735/raja-software-jerman-suap-pejabat-ri-begini-kronologinya">conduct involving Indonesia</a>. The SEC also said SAP&#8217;s misconduct spanned multiple jurisdictions and involved intermediaries used to pay bribes to officials.</p><p>That does not prove anything about Google in this case. It simply proves that &#8220;global tech company&#8221; is not Latin for &#8220;incorruptible monastery.&#8221;</p><p></p><h3>More Witnesses &#8800; Unfair Trial</h3><p>Another popular argument goes: the prosecution had far more time and far more witnesses than the defence. Therefore, unfair.</p><p>This is the sort of claim that sounds powerful until one remembers how criminal trials work.</p><p><strong>The state has the burden of proof</strong>. In corruption cases, especially ones involving procurement, technical specifications, audit calculations, institutional decisions, vendor chains, and alleged state loss, prosecutors typically present a lot of witnesses. It is the procedural price of proving a case beyond reasonable doubt.</p><p>The defence does not need to prove innocence in the same way. It can attack the prosecution&#8217;s evidence, expose gaps, undermine state-loss calculations, challenge intent, question causation, and argue reasonable doubt. A shorter defence case is not automatically an unfair defence case. Sometimes it is a strategic defence case.</p><p>That said, <strong>there have been real procedural controversies</strong>. Nadiem&#8217;s legal team protested an accelerated schedule that allegedly left only a short window to present defence witnesses and experts. Later, <a href="https://www.suara.com/news/2026/04/23/124621/hakim-percepat-sidang-kasus-chromebook-nadiem-makarim-hanya-diberi-3-hari-hadirkan-saksi">the court postponed proceedings until 4 May 2026</a> because Nadiem was hospitalised, with the judge saying the postponement was intended to protect the defendant&#8217;s right to respond and question witnesses or experts.</p><p>So yes, process matters. </p><ul><li><p>If the defence was unfairly squeezed, that matters. </p></li><li><p>If hearings were delayed by illness or legal-team absence, that also matters. </p></li><li><p>If a court tries to balance speed, rights, and public pressure, that is exactly where the system gets tested.</p></li></ul><p>But &#8220;the prosecution had more witnesses&#8221; is not the silver bullet some people seem to think it is. In fact, if the prosecution had brought only three witnesses and one of them was &#8220;trust me bro,&#8221; the same people would probably ask why the state was so unserious.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/fa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;http://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/196190370?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!60qy!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffa6c3d99-d125-4e37-ae24-91caa89c2fc6_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Scoring Points vs. Winning the Case</h3><p>One major defence line attacks the state-loss calculation. Nadiem himself publicly argued that <a href="https://www.antaranews.com/berita/5524393/nadiem-kerugian-negara-rp2-triliun-pada-kasus-chromebook-hasil-rekayasa">the Rp2 trillion state-loss figure was &#8220;engineered,&#8221;</a> saying BPKP acknowledged in court that it did not compare the Chromebook purchase price with market prices.</p><p>If the alleged overpricing is a core part of the case, then how the benchmark was calculated is more than a footnote. You cannot build a Rp1.5 trillion overpricing claim on moral disappointment, and a calculator borrowed from a political consultant.</p><p>There were also reports favourable to the defence suggesting that certain testimony indicated the procurement price <a href="https://www.liputan6.com/news/read/6291095/persidangan-lanjutan-chromebook-nadiem-makarim-terungkap-fakta-baru">was within or below market range</a>, and that devices remained in use. Those claims, if supported by court evidence, could weaken the prosecution&#8217;s overpricing and &#8220;non-beneficial&#8221; theories.</p><p>The Google testimony also appears to have challenged the prosecution&#8217;s claim that Google&#8217;s investment was tied to the Chromebook procurement. If prosecutors framed the case partly around an investment-procurement quid pro quo, then credible testimony denying linkage creates a problem they must overcome.</p><p>But again: scoring points is not the same as winning. A corruption case can survive the weakening of one strand if other strands remain strong. Or it can collapse if the central theory depends on that strand. That is why judges exist, despite the internet&#8217;s tireless campaign to replace them with polls.</p><p>The right question is not: &#8220;Did one witness help Nadiem?&#8221;</p><p>The right question is: &#8220;After all evidence is weighed, has the prosecution proved each legal element beyond reasonable doubt?&#8221;</p><p></p><h2>Is This Political?</h2><p>High-profile prosecutions of former ministers, startup founders, and politically adjacent figures can carry strategic meaning. The timing, the institutional incentives, the public theatre, the elite rivalries. All of that can matter.</p><p>But political context does not wash away evidence. Nor does evidence wash away political context. The two can coexist. </p><ul><li><p>A prosecution can be politically useful and factually grounded. </p></li><li><p>It can be politically motivated and still expose real misconduct. </p></li><li><p>It can be legally weak but narratively powerful. </p></li><li><p>It can be legally strong but selectively pursued. </p></li></ul><p>Adult life is cruel like that.</p><p>What is intellectually lazy is using &#8220;political prosecution&#8221; as a universal solvent. Pour it over every inconvenient fact and watch the whole case disappear.</p><p>Ask whether: </p><ul><li><p>The prosecution is consistent, </p></li><li><p>Similarly situated actors are being pursued, </p></li><li><p>The legal theory is coherent, </p></li><li><p>The state-loss calculation is robust, </p></li><li><p>Exculpatory evidence is being fairly considered, </p></li><li><p>Procedural rights are respected, </p></li><li><p>Witnesses are being tested properly.</p></li></ul><p>That is very different from saying: &#8220;He built ARKAS, therefore the empire struck back.&#8221;</p><p>SIPLah and ARKAS may have disrupted procurement ecosystems. But it does not automatically answer the Chromebook procurement question. Indonesia already has procurement systems across sectors. Digital procurement reform does not create a permanent moral forcefield around every later procurement decision.</p><p>This is where the same people who say, &#8220;Trust institutions, trust data, trust systems,&#8221; ask us to trust personal familiarity, elite respectability, and character references from people with an emotional conflict of interest.</p><ul><li><p>Yes, the Attorney General&#8217;s Office should be scrutinised. </p></li><li><p>Yes, the prosecution should be tested. </p></li><li><p>Yes, the defence should be heard. </p></li><li><p>Yes, public opinion should avoid mob justice.</p></li></ul><p>But no, &#8220;I know his family&#8221; is not Exhibit A.</p><p></p><p>We know the prosecution has alleged serious wrongdoing involving Chrome OS specifications, state losses, CDM, and benefit through corporate-linked structures. We know the defence has denied wrongdoing, attacked the state-loss calculation, argued divestment and non-involvement in procurement, and produced testimony that may challenge the Google-investment theory. We know procedural controversies have emerged around defence time, virtual testimony, illness, and scheduling. We know public opinion is split between those who see a reformer being punished and those who see a familiar pattern of elite impunity finally being tested.</p><p>What we do not know is whether the prosecution has proved guilt beyond reasonable doubt.</p><p>And that phrase matters: <strong>beyond reasonable doubt</strong>. </p><ul><li><p>Not beyond LinkedIn doubt. </p></li><li><p>Not beyond family WhatsApp doubt. </p></li><li><p>Not beyond &#8220;he seems nice&#8221; doubt. </p></li><li><p>Not beyond &#8220;Google said no&#8221; doubt. </p></li><li><p>Not beyond &#8220;the AGO is political&#8221; doubt. </p></li></ul><p><strong>Legal doubt.</strong></p><p>If Nadiem is acquitted, that does not necessarily mean every concern was imaginary. It means the court found the case <strong>legally unproven</strong>. If he is convicted, that does not automatically mean every conspiracy theory about him was true. It means the court found the legal elements satisfied.</p><p>Justice requires that distinction.</p><p>The fan-club version of reality cannot handle it. The mob version cannot handle it either. Both want certainty before the process is finished. Both want the trial to confirm a worldview already written in advance.</p><p>The rest of us should want evidence tested properly, claims separated from gut feel, political context examined without becoming an escape hatch, and public commentary humble enough to admit that knowing someone personally is not the same as knowing what happened.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we organisations make sense of Indonesia&#8217;s complex operating environment. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to understand the real-world context behind policy, enforcement, markets, and public sentiment.</strong></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Indonesia Loves MoUs. But Do They Really Drive Economic Growth?]]></title><description><![CDATA[MoUs dominate Indonesia&#8217;s investment story. Most are non-binding. Many never materialise. Some reshape entire industries.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/indonesia-mou-economy-billions-real</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/indonesia-mou-economy-billions-real</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2026 23:01:28 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KqJB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5737c94-b984-42aa-9259-76fffb068d60_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KqJB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fc5737c94-b984-42aa-9259-76fffb068d60_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>If Indonesia ever went to the Olympics for signing Memoranda of Understanding, the country would sweep the podium, and then convene a high-level dialogue to explore the feasibility of maintaining peak signing performance over the next five to ten years.</p><p>And yes, <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/coming-soon-economy-does-indonesia-love-announcements-leigh-mckiernon-tasqc">there would be a press release</a></strong>.</p><p>You see, MoUs hold a special place in Indonesian public life. Its a sign of ambition, coordination, and just enough forward momentum to feel like something important has happened. A signing ceremony delivers a neat sense of completion. Pens are lifted, hands are shaken, cameras flash, and for a brief moment the future appears fully booked.</p><ul><li><p>Long tables. </p></li><li><p>Carefully arranged flags. </p></li><li><p>Officials leaning forward with the seriousness of people about to unlock economic destiny. </p></li></ul><p>The announcement follows with reassuring precision. </p><ul><li><p>Billions in potential investment. </p></li><li><p>Strategic sectors. </p></li><li><p>Mutually beneficial cooperation. </p></li></ul><p>For a few days, it works, and the impression settles in that progress has been secured.</p><p>Then attention drifts. The next announcement arrives, and the previous document remains where it was left, waiting for the part where someone turns possibility into something measurable.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>How MoUs Became a Habit</strong></h3><p>The relationship between Indonesia and the Memorandum of Understanding is long, and layered. No one can quite agree when it started. Some point to the 1970s, when foreign investors arrived and the government discovered that signing documents created a reassuring sense of forward motion. Others suspect it goes further back, rooted in a diplomatic instinct to keep things open-ended and safely non-committal. </p><p>What changed in the 2000s and 2010s was volume and visibility. Indonesia began hosting <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indonesias-conference-industrial-complex-where-talk-never-mckiernon-iumqc/?trackingId=SB7oDI3XQYi6oLKhGzkXhQ%3D%3D">more summits, more forums</a></strong>, more carefully staged encounters between ministers and multinational executives. </p><p>The format settled into something efficient and repeatable. </p><ol><li><p>Delegations enter. </p></li><li><p>Speeches reference partnership and shared prosperity.</p></li><li><p>A number appears, usually in the billions. </p></li><li><p>Pens are lifted. </p></li><li><p>Documents are signed. </p></li><li><p>Applause follows on cue.</p></li></ol><p>From there, the machinery runs itself. </p><ul><li><p>The press release lands. </p></li><li><p>Headlines convert &#8220;intention&#8221; into &#8220;deal&#8221; with confidence. </p></li><li><p>Social media fills with images of handshakes and flags. </p></li></ul><p>For a few days, the future looks unusually well-organised.</p><p>MoUs thrived in this environment because they offered the best of both worlds. They allowed Indonesia to show ambition at scale while avoiding the slower, messier work of implementation. It is far easier to announce a railway than to negotiate land acquisition for one. It is far more enjoyable to discuss green industrial strategy than to navigate permits, financing gaps, and local resistance.</p><p>They also come with very little downside. </p><ul><li><p>MoUs do not complain when ignored. </p></li><li><p>They do not escalate disputes. </p></li><li><p>They do not ask why nothing has happened eighteen months later. </p></li><li><p>They wait to be remembered&#8230; or forgotten.</p></li></ul><p>And so the relationship deepened, because MoUs rarely disappoint loudly enough to cause concern.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/193250619?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Bqvw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4b4a3095-de17-49f6-9986-36debcf8d9d0_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>When MoUs Turn Into Something Real</strong></h3><p>To be fair, and in the interest of not sounding completely unhinged, some Indonesian MoUs do eventually grow up and become real, functioning pieces of the economy. These are the rare cases that officials point to, usually accompanied by a slide deck and a tone that suggests, &#8220;See, we told you this would work.&#8221;</p><p>They are the outliers. The MoUs that made it out alive.</p><p>Take the <a href="https://imip.co.id/">Morowali Industrial Park</a>. What began as a series of early agreements with Chinese industrial partners has turned into a sprawling nickel processing hub that now sits at the center of global supply chains. It produces millions of tons of material, employs tens of thousands of workers, and has helped reposition Indonesia as a serious player in downstream industry. It required years of capital, coordination, and political backing. It also required someone, somewhere, to keep pushing long after the signing ceremony ended.</p><p>The <a href="https://www.vale.com/indonesia-growth-projects-pomalaa">Pomalaa HPAL</a> project offers a similar arc. It started life as a familiar, harmless MoU. An &#8216;expression of interest.&#8217;  But this one kept going. It evolved into a definitive agreement involving <a href="https://vale.com/">Vale</a>, <a href="https://www.huayou.com">Huayou</a>, and <a href="https://www.ford.com">Ford</a>, backed by serious money and tied directly to Indonesia&#8217;s electric vehicle ambitions. Construction is underway. Financing is being arranged. The idea survived contact with reality, which already places it in the top tier of MoU outcomes.</p><p>Then there is the <a href="https://ptplnnr.com/id/profile/portfolio/detail/cirata-floating-pv">Cirata floating solar project</a>. Announced within a broader Indonesia&#8211;UAE cooperation framework, it moved from concept to construction and is now operational, feeding electricity into the grid. For policymakers, it functions as a reliable example whenever questions arise about whether renewable energy commitments are translating into actual capacity. For other MoUs, it serves as a reminder that expectations can, occasionally, be met.</p><p>The <a href="https://www.jakartamrt.co.id/">Jakarta MRT</a> sits slightly outside the usual MoU narrative but still belongs in the same family. Built through long-standing cooperation with Japan, supported by financing arrangements and technical partnerships, it represents what happens when frameworks are followed by sustained execution. Trains run. People use them. It is an outcome that feels almost radical in its simplicity.</p><p>These successes share a pattern. </p><ul><li><p>They involve partners who can fund and build. </p></li><li><p>They align with national priorities, which keeps them politically relevant. </p></li><li><p>They move beyond early-stage language into binding agreements that assign responsibility and timelines. </p></li><li><p>Most importantly, they continue to receive attention after the press conference.</p></li></ul><p>So yes, MoUs can lead to real things. They can underpin industrial clusters, energy projects, and transport systems that reshape parts of the economy.</p><p>They just do so selectively.</p><p>For every Morowali or Cirata, there are many others that remain exactly where they started. Filed, referenced, occasionally mentioned, but never quite activated. The success stories are real, and worth acknowledging. They are also rare enough to be memorable, which is why they are used so often to justify everything else.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/193250619?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!AAzq!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff56aa683-cbf9-4559-bc38-016fae34173a_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>When MoUs Don&#8217;t Go Much Further</strong></h3><p>For every Morowali or Cirata that makes it to fruition, there is a much larger number of MoUs that opened strong and then drifted off somewhere between &#8220;initial enthusiasm&#8221; and &#8220;pending further discussion.&#8221; </p><p>The opening scenes are convincing. </p><ol><li><p>A signing ceremony with confident smiles. </p></li><li><p>A headline number large enough to feel historic. </p></li><li><p>Mentions of jobs, technology transfer, regional transformation. </p></li><li><p>A future that appears briefly within reach.</p></li></ol><p>Then the calendar fills up.</p><ul><li><p>Meetings are scheduled, then rescheduled. </p></li><li><p>Feasibility studies are commissioned and take their time. </p></li><li><p>Permits begin their journey through the administrative labyrinth. </p></li><li><p>Investors reassess. </p></li><li><p>Market conditions evolve. </p></li><li><p>The project remains alive in theory and increasingly abstract in practice.</p></li></ul><p>The numbers, unfortunately, have a habit of interrupting the narrative. Around 40 to 50 percent of investment commitments eventually <a href="https://finance.detik.com/berita-ekonomi-bisnis/d-2936861/cuma-komitmen-realisasi-investasi-investor-china-paling-rendah?utm_source=chatgpt.com">translate into realised projects</a>. Some earlier waves of foreign commitments, particularly from China, hovered <a href="https://finance.detik.com/berita-ekonomi-bisnis/d-2865894/bkpm-dari-10-rencana-investasi-china-hanya-1-yang-realisasi?utm_source=chatgpt.com">closer to 7 to 10 percent</a>. Renewable energy targets have seen realisation levels <a href="https://iesr.or.id/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Indonesia-Energy-Transition-Outlook-2024-1.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com">around 30 percent in certain periods</a>.</p><p>And yet, each new MoU arrives with the energy of a fresh start. The context rarely follows it onto the stage. The audience applauds as if the previous announcements were unrelated.</p><p>There are reasons for this pattern. MoUs are designed to be non-binding. They are meant to open conversations, not close deals. That flexibility is convenient when circumstances change. It is less helpful when expectations have already been set in public.</p><p>Once the real work begins, the tone shifts. </p><ul><li><p>Land needs to be secured. </p></li><li><p>Regulations need to be navigated. </p></li><li><p>Financing needs to be locked in. </p></li><li><p>Coordination between institutions becomes more consequential. </p></li></ul><p>Each step introduces opportunities for delay, reinterpretation, or quiet retreat.</p><p>If the successful MoUs are the headlines, the majority are closer to background noise. They remain in the system, referenced occasionally, waiting for conditions that may or may not arrive.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:116584,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/193250619?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Yci_!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe98c9c5c-39ef-4278-ba42-35afa7697e37_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Why MoUs Keep Getting Signed</strong></h3><p>MoUs are popular everywhere. Governments sign them, photograph them, and occasionally even follow up on them. Indonesia has simply taken this global habit and refined it into something closer to an art form. At this point, the MoU is less a tool of policy and more a reliable unit of political output.</p><h4><strong>1. They Deliver Instant Gratification</strong></h4><p>Few actions in government produce such clean, immediate results. Within minutes, a signing ceremony generates images, headlines, and a narrative of progress. A minister can stand in front of a banner, hold up a folder, and confidently suggest that billions of dollars are now in motion. The audience is given a complete story. Something has been agreed. Something big is coming.</p><p>The fact that the &#8220;something&#8221; still needs feasibility studies, permits, financing, and several years of negotiation is a detail best reserved for later. Preferably much later.</p><h4><strong>2. They Are Comfortably Low Risk</strong></h4><p>MoUs allow leaders to claim momentum without accepting meaningful exposure. If the project moves forward, it becomes a success story. If it does not, the explanation is ready. </p><ul><li><p>Market conditions changed. </p></li><li><p>Investors reconsidered. </p></li><li><p>Technical issues emerged. </p></li></ul><p>The MoU itself remains blameless. There is no courtroom drama. No breach of contract. No public reckoning. Just a gentle fade into administrative memory.</p><h4><strong>3. They Sound Larger Than Life</strong></h4><p>The numbers do a lot of work. Announcements framed in the tens of billions carry weight, regardless of how tentative the underlying commitments might be. A headline can suggest certainty even when the document itself is careful to avoid it.</p><p>This creates a useful ambiguity. Officials can speak in terms of ambition. Investors can interpret flexibility. The public sees scale. Everyone leaves with a slightly different understanding, and no one is technically incorrect.</p><h4><strong>4. They Fit the National Operating System</strong></h4><p>Indonesia&#8217;s approach to decision-making values discussion, alignment, and leaving options open. MoUs fit neatly into that system. They formalise intent while keeping doors ajar.</p><p>MoUs reflect a broader preference for gradual commitment and managed uncertainty. They also happen to look very good in photographs, which never hurts.</p><p>Taken together, the appeal becomes clear. MoUs deliver visibility, preserve flexibility, and carry minimal downside.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/193250619?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!t6kw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7642c867-b334-4acc-a748-a9d31533f24d_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Indonesia&#8217;s enthusiasm for MoUs sits comfortably within global norms, just with a little more ceremony, and a few more flags. None of this is troubling. Every country enjoys a well-timed announcement. Indonesia has just turned it into a minor art form.</p><p>And that&#8217;s OK&#8230; as long as everyone understands what they&#8217;re looking at</p><p>An MoU is:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Not</strong> a contract</p></li><li><p><strong>Not</strong> a guarantee</p></li><li><p><strong>Not</strong> a project</p></li><li><p><strong>Not</strong> a job-creation machine</p></li><li><p><strong>Not</strong> a forecast of future GDP</p></li><li><p><strong>Not</strong> the Second Coming of Industrialisation</p></li></ul><p>An MoU <strong>is</strong>:</p><ul><li><p>A conversation starter</p></li><li><p>A diplomatic gesture</p></li><li><p>A political performance</p></li><li><p>A maybe (if the stars align and nobody drops the ball)</p></li></ul><p>The country&#8217;s track record offers a balanced view, if one is willing to look past the press releases. Some agreements have matured into real infrastructure and industrial capacity. Others have taken a more contemplative path, remaining in a prolonged state of potential.</p><p>So where does that leave us?</p><p>With the only intelligent conclusion:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Celebrate MoUs for what they are. Political postcards. From the future. But never mistake them for the future itself.</strong></p></blockquote><p>If Indonesia ever wants more of those MoUs to turn into real factories, real infrastructure, and real growth, it will take:</p><ul><li><p>Regulatory certainty</p></li><li><p>Serious follow-through</p></li><li><p>Better coordination</p></li><li><p>Stronger institutions</p></li><li><p>And a little less faith in the divine transformative power of a signing ceremony</p></li></ul><p>Will this happen?</p><p>That&#8217;s the million dollar question.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we support clients through regulatory, commercial, and local complexities to deliver real results in Indonesia.. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to help identify, structure, and execute investments that actually move forward.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/indonesia-mou-economy-billions-real?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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Most simply rearrange words while the real value of your work stays hidden.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/why-most-cv-writing-services-dont-work</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/why-most-cv-writing-services-dont-work</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 23:00:18 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKu6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ebe14cf-e261-47fa-bce1-a37df9930008_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!fKu6!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9ebe14cf-e261-47fa-bce1-a37df9930008_1792x1024.png" 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Well, not really. I made that number up. </p><p>But many professionals are indeed hoping that a serif font, three tidy bullet points, and the phrase &#8220;cross-functional synergy facilitation&#8221; will convince a recruiter they are not simply improvising their career.</p><p>This is where the CV rewriting service industry enters the chat. A multi-million dollar ecosystem built around the virtuous mission of <strong>copying and pasting job descriptions into your experience section and hoping nobody notices</strong>.</p><p>These services promise transformation. They promise expertise. They promise to &#8220;elevate your professional narrative.&#8221;</p><p>What you usually receive is a document that sounds impressive while saying almost nothing. Think:</p><ul><li><p>Generic achievements. </p></li><li><p>Responsibilities lifted from job descriptions. </p></li><li><p>Phrases like &#8220;strategic leadership&#8221; and &#8220;stakeholder alignment.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Because here&#8217;s the dirty secret the industry doesn&#8217;t want you to know:</p><blockquote><p><strong>You can&#8217;t fix a CV by rewriting the CV.</strong></p></blockquote><p>You fix it by reconstructing the thinking behind it. Most people remember only <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1069072713488897">fragments of what they actually accomplished</a>. Projects blur together. Impact disappears. Achievements shrink in memory until they resemble routine tasks.</p><p>Recovering that detail requires something far more radical than Grammarly Premium or ChatGPT. It requires:</p><blockquote><p><strong>a deep, structured, professional conversation with someone who understands hiring, interviews, and senior roles well enough to pull the real story out of you.</strong></p></blockquote><p>In other words, someone who knows how to dig&#8230; and the difference between activity and impact.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>The Modern CV Rewrite Industry</strong></h3><p>Walk into any budget CV service and the process goes something like this:</p><ol><li><p>You submit your CV</p></li><li><p>A &#8220;professional writer&#8221; (who may or may not have been a barista three days ago) opens it.</p></li><li><p>They stare at it for 45 seconds.</p></li><li><p>If the CV says you managed something, it can be improved by saying you strategically managed it.</p></li><li><p>Responsibilities are lifted from job descriptions and repositioned as achievements. </p></li><li><p>Sentences are extended. </p></li><li><p>Words like &#8220;oversaw,&#8221; &#8220;led,&#8221; and &#8220;delivered&#8221; are applied liberally.</p></li></ol><p>Voila! Your career is now, apparently, reimagined.</p><p>What has actually happened is linguistic inflation. The substance of the experience remains unchanged while the language surrounding it becomes increasingly elaborate. You now:</p><ul><li><p>Oversaw operational optimisation.</p></li><li><p>Drove cross-functional synergies.</p></li><li><p>Leveraged stakeholder alignment processes.</p></li><li><p>Enabled enhanced enablement enabling.</p></li></ul><p>These phrases sound impressive while communicating almost no information. Recruiters have developed a survival instinct around them. After reviewing thousands of resumes, their brains begin to filter this language automatically, much like background noise.</p><p>In fact, research on resume evaluation consistently shows that generic wording and buzzwords <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02230960">degrade recruiter attention</a>, <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1559-1816.2007.00184.x">depress hireability</a>, and lead directly to job seekers screaming into pillows across multiple continents.</p><p>But CV rewriting services press on, undeterred, because nothing says <em>&#8220;I understand senior leadership roles"</em> like a freshly pasted list of duties that 1,482 other applicants have also submitted this morning.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190488792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!6Ifl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff8a90bf3-68fd-4cd6-8cea-3e98fc4ebed3_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Limits of &#8220;CV Rewriting&#8221;</strong></h3><p>Let&#8217;s address the blunt thesis directly.</p><blockquote><p><strong>A CV cannot be rewritten based solely on the CV.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Correct. Scientifically defensible.</p><p>The idea that a weak CV can be transformed purely through editing assumes the information already sitting on the page contains everything needed to build a compelling professional narrative. In reality, most CVs are closer to skeletal outlines than complete records of experience.</p><p>They contain fragments.</p><ul><li><p>Job titles.</p></li><li><p>Responsibilities.</p></li></ul><p>What they usually do not contain is the <strong>substance</strong> that hiring managers actually evaluate. The real material lives in the context behind the work.</p><ul><li><p>The full story of the project.</p></li><li><p>The decisions made under pressure.</p></li><li><p>The business outcomes that followed.</p></li><li><p>The stakeholders who needed convincing.</p></li><li><p>The scale of responsibility and the ambiguity that came with it.</p></li></ul><p>Most professionals never document these details. They were busy delivering the work rather than narrating it.</p><p>This is why rewriting alone fails. Polishing vague responsibilities does not magically produce evidence of leadership or impact. </p><p>Studies consistently show that <a href="https://journals.vilniustech.lt/index.php/JBEM/article/view/13670">structured, achievement oriented resumes improve hiring outcomes</a>. </p><blockquote><p><strong>Candidates with clear evidence of results and measurable contributions <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0091026009337964">receive stronger evaluations</a> and better salary offers.</strong> </p></blockquote><p>The key word here is evidence.</p><p>The real value lies in <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-disability-management/article/resumedevelopment-process-and-its-impact-on-jobsearch-behaviour/CF58AE35C9B3FFF3001E640BAFC72467">the process of knowledge construction</a><strong>. </strong>When candidates work with experts who help them: </p><ul><li><p>reconstruct their experience</p></li><li><p>connect their achievements to business outcomes</p></li><li><p>identify implicit leadership behaviours</p></li><li><p>quantify impact</p></li><li><p>articulate complexity</p></li></ul><p>&#8230;their employability skyrockets.</p><p>In other words:</p><blockquote><p><strong>The resume is the artifact.<br>The interview is the intervention.</strong></p></blockquote><p>CV rewriting services fix the artifact.</p><p>Professionals fix the human.</p><p>Guess which one produces long-term results?</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190488792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7Tby!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F45b8468d-22e8-415f-af47-337df245f581_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Finding the Story Behind the Work</strong></h3><p>Let&#8217;s talk about the one thing many CV rewriting services avoid:</p><p><strong>The professional, structured, deeply probing career interview.</strong></p><p>This is where the magic happens. Not with templates. Not with formatting. With questions. Questions supported by meta-analyses, qualitative studies, and every competent career expert who has ever looked another human in the eye and asked:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Okay, but what did you <em>actually</em> do?&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Suddenly, achievements that never made it into the original CV, tend to pour out like someone turned on a fire hose:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;Oh, well I did lead a &#163;3M transformation programme, but it was just part of the job.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;I suppose I negotiated that partnership across three regions, though the legal team handled the paperwork.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Yes, technically the project stopped us losing our largest client, but the whole team was involved.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>This pattern appears constantly. People understate their impact. They compress complex work into modest descriptions. Achievements fade in memory because the person experiencing them was focused on delivery.</p><p>The structured interview exists to rescue your accomplishments from the basement of your psyche.</p><p>Career counseling research says that talking about your work makes you better at getting work. Meta analyses show that <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1998-04792-003">guided career conversations improve</a>: </p><ul><li><p>job search self efficacy, </p></li><li><p>career clarity, </p></li><li><p>decision making ability. </p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348074321_A_Meta-Analytic_Investigation_of_the_Association_Between_Working_Alliance_and_Outcomes_of_Individual_Career_Counseling">interview performance </a></p></li><li><p>confidence in pursuing senior opportunities.</p></li></ul><p>When professionals narrate their work in detail, they <a href="https://ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/ijps/article/view/0/40462">begin to see patterns</a>. </p><ul><li><p>Leadership behaviours emerge. </p></li><li><p>Strategic thinking becomes visible. </p></li><li><p>Business outcomes connect to individual actions.</p></li></ul><p>This matters even more at senior levels. because hiring managers evaluating leadership roles are not scanning for tasks completed. They <a href="https://hbr.org/2014/01/how-to-write-a-resume-that-stands-out">want evidence of</a>:</p><ul><li><p>scope</p></li><li><p>ambiguity</p></li><li><p>influence</p></li><li><p>scale</p></li><li><p>leadership</p></li><li><p>problem-solving in political environments</p></li><li><p>strategic outcomes</p></li></ul><p>None of which show up in most preexisting CVs because candidates tend to write resumes like they&#8217;re reporting a mild nuisance to an insurance company.</p><p>Not because the experience does not exist, but because no one has taken the time to draw it out.</p><p>You do not extract this information from a Word document.</p><p>You extract it from <strong>a person</strong>, through <strong>a skilled interviewer</strong>, using <strong>structured methods</strong> that pull out the &#8220;nooks and crannies&#8221; of real achievement.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190488792?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!SH8W!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F308e3f88-e080-46cb-b7c3-3b660c78adb0_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>What AI Can and Cannot Fix</strong></h3><p>Recruiters now receive waves of resumes that sound remarkably similar.</p><p>Page after page arrives declaring:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;an unparalleled passion for innovation&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;excellence in strategic execution&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;a proven track record of delivering world-class cross-functional results&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>In aggregate, these phrases begin to resemble a script that thousands of candidates are reading from simultaneously.</p><p>AI itself is not the problem. The problem is how it is used. Many job seekers treat it like a magic wand instead of a power tool.</p><p>One well known study on AI assisted writing found that AI tools that correct grammar, tone, and clarity <a href="https://cdo.mit.edu/blog/2023/05/19/an-ai-polished-resume-gets-you-hired-faster-and-will-raise-your-paycheck/">improved hiring outcomes </a><strong><a href="https://cdo.mit.edu/blog/2023/05/19/an-ai-polished-resume-gets-you-hired-faster-and-will-raise-your-paycheck/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">by</a></strong><a href="https://cdo.mit.edu/blog/2023/05/19/an-ai-polished-resume-gets-you-hired-faster-and-will-raise-your-paycheck/?utm_source=chatgpt.com"> </a><strong><a href="https://cdo.mit.edu/blog/2023/05/19/an-ai-polished-resume-gets-you-hired-faster-and-will-raise-your-paycheck/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">approx. 8%</a></strong></p><p>Eight percent is nice. It suggests that cleaner writing helps candidates present themselves more effectively. But eight percent is not transformation. </p><p>AI cannot: </p><ul><li><p>contextualise your achievements,</p></li><li><p>extract leadership behaviours,</p></li><li><p>articulate ambiguity,</p></li><li><p>model strategic reasoning,</p></li><li><p>explain why you actually mattered.</p></li></ul><p>AI is a multiplier. If you give it garbage, it multiplies garbage. If you give it a rich, deeply explored narrative of your experience, it can polish it beautifully.</p><p>Unfortunately, most CV rewriting services and job seekers opt for the former.</p><p>Because AI generated resumes are now <a href="https://www.prweb.com/releases/resumebuilder-com-survey-finds-46-percent-of-job-seekers-use-chatgpt-to-write-their-resumes-and-or-cover-letters-849205898.html">indistinguishable from each other</a>, major employers are experimenting with filters that:</p><ul><li><p>detect over-templated content</p></li><li><p>reject generic achievements</p></li><li><p>penalize resumes with overly polished &#8220;AI signature wording&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Ironically, some of these filters are powered by the same technology that produced the resumes in the first place.</p><p>In other words:</p><ul><li><p>Candidates generate AI resumes.</p></li><li><p>Recruiters deploy AI to filter AI resumes.</p></li></ul><p>Meanwhile, the applicants with unique, specific, clearly articulated achievements?</p><p>They&#8217;re sailing through.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!7fJP!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0b2cc86f-ae1e-4fcd-b548-d34cb59e9114_1344x256.png 1272w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><blockquote><p><strong>Most CV rewriting services don't work because they start at the wrong end of the problem.</strong></p></blockquote><p>They believe the CV is a document.</p><p>But the CV is a <strong><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1069072705277937">diagnostic output</a></strong><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1069072705277937"> of a deeper human process</a>.</p><p>When that underlying process is weak, the document that emerges from it will also be weak. </p><p>You cannot create a high-impact CV by:</p><ul><li><p>editing what already exists</p></li><li><p>inserting generic &#8220;achievements&#8221;</p></li><li><p>running the text through AI for spice</p></li></ul><p>None of that changes the fundamental problem. The substance of the story has not improved.</p><p>You create a high-impact CV by:</p><ul><li><p>deeply exploring your actual accomplishments</p></li><li><p>reconstructing the strategic value of your work</p></li><li><p>understanding the complexity of the roles you target</p></li><li><p>articulating your impact in language appropriate for senior hiring</p></li><li><p>using expert guidance to unearth the evidence hidden in your own head</p></li></ul><p>This is the step many services skip because it requires time, expertise, and uncomfortable levels of curiosity. It means asking questions until vague memories become clear examples.</p><p>You do not simply rewrite a CV.</p><p>You reconstruct the understanding behind it.</p><p>And once that understanding changes, the document almost writes itself.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://careercandour.com/">Career Candou</a>r we work 1:1 with professionals to rebuild CVs from the ground up. Your real experience. Your impact. 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Wages often reflect domestic productivity, export capacity, and a demand loop that&#8217;s hard to escape.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/are-indonesian-workers-underpaid-economic-reality</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/are-indonesian-workers-underpaid-economic-reality</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 23:27:17 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!5Crf!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fcef9ff1f-6b3f-4979-83cf-0b1619ab952a_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Every week on Indonesian social media, someone posts a screenshot of a job listing and declares that <strong>fresh grads in Jakarta making Rp 6 million per month are &#8220;criminally underpaid.&#8221;</strong> Reactions arrive quickly. Shock. Outrage. Comments about exploitation. Occasionally a LinkedIn philosopher will appear to explain that <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dear-indonesia-other-countries-treating-your-talent-better-mckiernon-kwaic">Indonesian companies simply need to &#8220;value talent more.&#8221;</a></strong> Meanwhile, economists and anyone who has ever looked at a profit and loss statement wonders if the Indonesian school system should add a <em>Unit Economics: Why Your Salary Exists at All </em>course to the curriculum.</p><p>Because the truth, that absolutely no one wants to hear, is this:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Most Indonesians working locally are </strong><em><strong>not</strong></em><strong> underpaid. They are, in a painfully literal sense, paid roughly what the domestic economy can support.</strong></p></blockquote><p>It&#8217;s not flattering. It&#8217;s not empowering. <a href="https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/jobsanddevelopment">But it </a><em><a href="https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/jobsanddevelopment">is</a></em><a href="https://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/jobsanddevelopment"> the economics</a>.</p><p>Indonesia is rich in resources. </p><ul><li><p>Nickel, </p></li><li><p>Coal, </p></li><li><p>Palm oil, </p></li><li><p>Gas. </p></li></ul><p>These industries generate<a href="https://www.id.crifasia.com/resources/industry-insights/the-mining-industry-opportunities-in-indonesia-in-2023/"> enormous value</a>. Yet the value sits mostly in the ground and flows through capital intensive supply chains that employ relatively few people. Meanwhile the typical urban professional is not exporting software or financial services to the world. They are working inside a large domestic economy where <a href="https://databoks.katadata.co.id/en/pdb/statistics/6892d3bc326c7/household-consumption-contributed-54-to-indonesias-gdp-in-q2-2025">purchasing power is still developing</a>.</p><p>The result? Workers want higher wages so they can spend more. Companies say they will raise wages <em>once</em> customers spend more. Around and around it goes. It&#8217;s not a crisis, but it is harder to escape. Understanding that reality is the starting point for any serious discussion about how to change it.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Underpaid Compared to What?</strong></h3><p>If you&#8217;re an Indonesian professional, chances are you have felt underpaid at some point. Perhaps you:</p><ul><li><p>Spent too long scrolling LinkedIn where a tech worker in California explains that their company provides a meditation allowance and stock options for writing code three days a week. </p></li><li><p>Saw a salary comparison chart showing that someone in Singapore earns three times as much for a job that appears rather similar to yours. </p></li><li><p>Watched a YouTube video about a remote developer earning USD 150,000 from a beachside apartment somewhere in the tropics.</p></li></ul><p>Unfortunately, the global salary comparison game is a little like comparing the price of coffee in Jakarta with the price of coffee inside an airport terminal in Zurich.</p><p>Your salary is not determined by:</p><ul><li><p>What Google pays in Mountain View. </p></li><li><p>What Shopee offers software developers in Singapore.</p></li><li><p>What an unsustainable VC-funded start up paid interns during the money printing festival of 2021.</p></li></ul><p>Your salary is determined by:</p><blockquote><p><strong>How much value your firm can extract from the Indonesian market, which is powered by Indonesian purchasing power, which is powered by Indonesian wages, which&#8230; oh look, a loop.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Indonesia&#8217;s economy is <strong><a href="https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.CON.TOTL.ZS?locations=ID">over 75% domestic demand driven</a></strong>. And domestic demand is powered by the incomes of&#8230; well&#8230; the same people demanding the higher wages.</p><p>And even worse: most of Indonesia is not a high-tech economy. It&#8217;s a country where:</p><ul><li><p><strong><a href="https://documents.worldbank.org/en/publication/documents-reports/documentdetail/662461630655839357/structural-transformation-and-labor-productivity-in-indonesia-where-are-all-the-good-jobs">60% of jobs are still informal</a></strong>,</p></li><li><p>Productivity levels remain lower than several regional peers. </p></li><li><p>The country exports <a href="https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/services-trade-in-indonesia_3bcc85bc-en.html">relatively little in high value services</a> such as software, consulting, or advanced engineering.</p></li></ul><p>Which means the domestic salary conversation is happening inside an economy that still earns most of its income from internal activity and natural resources rather than global knowledge industries.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190375562?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!i8VL!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe577cab0-6fce-4523-90a7-4cb710b055e8_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Real Constraint: Unit Economics</strong></h3><p>Let&#8217;s imagine the typical Indonesian company:</p><ul><li><p>Sells mostly to Indonesian customers</p></li><li><p>Operates on thin margins</p></li><li><p>Navigates inefficient and complicated regulations</p></li><li><p>Competes against thousands of other companies selling identical products</p></li><li><p>Cannot arbitrarily raise prices without losing customers who themselves have low wages</p></li></ul><p>Now ask yourself:</p><blockquote><p><strong>In this ecosystem, where exactly is the giant reserve of wage money supposed to come from?</strong></p></blockquote><p>The popular narrative imagines corporations sitting on hidden vaults of profit while refusing to share the spoils with employees. That certainly exists, but in much of Indonesia&#8217;s domestic economy the picture looks far less glamorous.</p><ul><li><p>Revenue comes from a customer base whose <a href="https://kadin.id/en/data-dan-statistik/profil-ekonomi-indonesia/">purchasing power is limited</a>. </p></li><li><p>Costs include rent, logistics, regulatory compliance, and competition from imports or large online marketplaces.</p></li></ul><p>This is partly why the start up era felt so strange. VC-backed companies <em>pretended</em> to be global companies, <a href="https://www.cbinsights.com/research/report/venture-capital-trends/">borrowed Silicon Valley valuations</a>, and paid crazy salaries with investor money. But that was never sustainable, because the local revenue base couldn&#8217;t support those costs once the free money era died.</p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s problem isn&#8217;t moral. It&#8217;s mathematical.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190375562?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Nickel, Not Knowledge</strong></h3><p>Indonesia earns billions of dollars every year exporting things that come out of the ground or grow in the soil. </p><ul><li><p>Nickel. </p></li><li><p>Coal.</p></li><li><p>Palm oil.</p></li><li><p>More nickel. </p></li></ul><p>These industries are extremely valuable. They generate foreign exchange, and attract investment,</p><p>From a macroeconomic perspective, this is a success story. Indonesia sits on some of the world&#8217;s largest reserves of key commodities, particularly nickel. Countries that control strategic resources often enjoy strong export revenues and geopolitical attention.</p><p>But there is one small complication.</p><p>The industries that produce these exports <a href="https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/704581575962514304/pdf/Report-on-Indonesia-Mining-Sector-Diagnostic.pdf">do not employ very many people</a>.</p><p>Mining contributes roughly <strong><a href="https://www.id.crifasia.com/resources/industry-insights/the-mining-industry-opportunities-in-indonesia-in-2023/">11% of Indonesia&#8217;s GDP</a></strong>, but only <strong>1-2% of jobs</strong>. In other words, the industry produces a lot of value with relatively few workers. Capital, machinery, and large scale infrastructure do most of the heavy lifting.</p><p>For everyone else, the millions of office workers, administrators, marketers, analysts, and junior managers, there is no practical way to participate directly in the nickel boom. </p><p>Meanwhile, what about exporting <em>services</em>?</p><p>Well&#8230;</p><ul><li><p>India exports <a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/india/ict-service-exports-bop-us-dollar-wb-data">USD 178 billion of IT services</a></p></li><li><p>The Philippines exports <a href="https://itandbusinessprocessassociation.org">USD 38+ billion in IT-BPO</a></p></li><li><p>Indonesia exports&#8230; <a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/indonesia/ict-service-exports-bop-us-dollar-wb-data">USD 3&#8211;4 billion of ICT services</a></p></li></ul><p>So yes, there is value in Indonesia. But it is underground, not in the typical office worker&#8217;s keyboard fingers. Until Indonesia exports <em>skills</em>, not just <em>soil</em>, wage levels will continue to mirror the domestic economy, not global benchmarks.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stB7!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d592e48-a594-4f86-bf8a-a617a933e770_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!stB7!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F9d592e48-a594-4f86-bf8a-a617a933e770_1344x256.png 848w, 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loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Chicken-Egg Problem</strong></h3><p>Indonesia&#8217;s macroeconomic conversation often circles around a simple problem. </p><ol><li><p>Workers want higher wages because the cost of living rises and aspirations rise with it. </p></li><li><p>Firms respond that they would happily raise wages if revenues were higher. </p></li><li><p>Revenues depend on customers spending more money. </p></li><li><p>Those customers, unfortunately, are the same workers asking for higher wages.</p></li></ol><p>And so the discussion loops back to the beginning.</p><p>The logic is <a href="https://www.ilo.org/sites/default/files/wcmsp5/groups/public/@ed_protect/@protrav/@travail/documents/publication/wcms_192507.pdf">easy to understand</a>. </p><ol><li><p>If incomes increase, people spend more. </p></li><li><p>When people spend more, businesses sell more goods and services. </p></li><li><p>With stronger sales, firms invest in expansion, hire additional workers, and adopt more productive technology. </p></li><li><p>Productivity rises, which allows wages to rise further without destabilizing the business model.</p></li></ol><p>That is the optimistic version of the cycle.</p><p>There is also a <a href="https://gala.gre.ac.uk/id/eprint/20951/7/20951_Oyvat_Elgin_and_Oztunal%C4%B1_GreenwichPapersPoliticalEconomy_FEPS_v3.pdf">less friendly version</a>. </p><ol><li><p>If wages rise faster than productivity, companies may respond by increasing prices. </p></li><li><p>Higher prices reduce competitiveness, especially for sectors that sell products internationally. </p></li><li><p>Exports weaken, investment slows, and the economy loses momentum. </p></li><li><p>At that point wage growth becomes difficult to sustain.</p></li></ol><p>This is not unique to Indonesia. It&#8217;s a developmental phase. Countries such as <a href="https://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/346251468739299894/pdf/Koreas-exerience-with-export-led-industrial-development.pdf">South Korea</a>, Taiwan, China, and <a href="https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/developmenttalk/exploring-viet-nam-s-export-boom-and-its-ripple-effects-on-the-l">Vietnam</a> faced similar dilemmas when they were transitioning from lower income to middle income status.</p><p>So how did they escape?</p><blockquote><p><strong>They plugged their workers into global markets before their wages rose.</strong></p></blockquote><p>Export oriented manufacturing, technology services, and other tradable industries brought foreign income into the economy. That external demand reduced the dependence on domestic consumption alone.</p><p>Once productivity and export revenues increased, higher wages became easier to support. The economy grew beyond the limits of its own purchasing power.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190375562?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!hgVS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F267d6db1-0a35-4609-b41f-6b4169a1d112_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>So&#8230; How Do We Actually Get There?</strong></h3><p>Good news: escaping this cycle is possible.</p><p>Bad news: the process is slow, politically difficult, and unglamorous. </p><p>So what does the actual playbook look like when we strip away the romantic nationalism and patriotic LinkedIn posts?</p><p><strong>Step 1: <a href="https://voxdev.org/voxdevlit/industrial-development/trade-and-industrial-policy">Build tradable sectors that earn foreign money</a></strong></p><p>The first requirement is expanding industries that sell products or services to the world rather than only to domestic customers. Export oriented manufacturing like electronics assembly, automotive components, industrial machinery, and battery supply chains are all examples. Digital services and professional services can also play a role if the skills and infrastructure exist.</p><p>When companies sell internationally they earn revenue from outside the domestic income pool. That extra demand allows firms to grow without relying entirely on local purchasing power.</p><p><strong>Step 2: Stop pretending the domestic market can carry wage growth</strong></p><p>Indonesia has a large population, but average incomes are still developing. <a href="https://databoks.katadata.co.id/en/pdb/statistics/6892d3bc326c7/household-consumption-contributed-54-to-indonesias-gdp-in-q2-2025">Domestic consumption alone cannot sustainably drive large increases in wages</a> across the entire economy. External demand is necessary to expand the pie.</p><p>This is why countries that successfully increased wages usually built strong export sectors first. Once productivity and export revenue increased, higher incomes followed more naturally.</p><p><strong>Step 3: Raise wages slowly, predictably, and tied to productivity</strong></p><p>Wage growth matters. But the timing and pace matter just as much. Sudden increases in labor costs can destabilize SMEs that operate on narrow margins. A more sustainable approach links wage growth to inflation, productivity improvements, and gradual catch up where wages have clearly fallen behind living costs.</p><p><strong>Step 4: Fix skills for things the world will actually buy</strong></p><p>Human capital matters only if it connects to real economic demand. That means prioritizing skills that integrate workers into global value chains. Language ability, engineering, software development, logistics, advanced manufacturing, and design all matter. Training thousands of people for roles that serve only small domestic markets does not move the needle very far.</p><p><strong>Step 5: <a href="https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2018/09/resource-wealth">Use resource rents to fund transformation</a></strong></p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s resource wealth can be an advantage if it is used <strong>strategically</strong>. Revenue from commodities such as nickel or coal can help finance long term investments. That includes research and development, industrial upgrading, digital infrastructure, education, and regulatory capacity. Resource income should act as seed capital for broader economic diversification.</p><p><strong>Step 6: Improve institutions so productivity can grow</strong></p><p>Businesses need clear rules, predictable regulation, functioning courts, and competitive markets. Infrastructure must support efficient logistics and reliable energy supply. Reducing red tape, enforcing contracts, and limiting corruption may not make headlines, but these factors shape productivity across the entire economy.</p><p>Economists have been repeating some version of this list <a href="https://drodrik.scholar.harvard.edu/publications/industrial-policy-twenty-first-century">for decades</a>. The challenge has never been identifying the steps. The challenge has always been executing them consistently over time.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/d8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/190375562?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pbpl!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fd8bad6f1-e760-479b-b0c3-538c750b3d72_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>From a <strong>global perspective</strong>, Indonesian talent often looks underpaid. Skilled professionals in Jakarta, Bandung, or Surabaya frequently earn a fraction of what similar roles command in Singapore, Australia, Europe, or the United States. When salary comparison websites and social media posts circulate endlessly, the gap is impossible to ignore.</p><p>From a <strong>domestic economic perspective</strong>, however, wages generally reflect the value the local economy is capable of generating. Companies selling primarily to Indonesian consumers cannot sustainably pay salaries that assume Silicon Valley level revenues. The numbers simply do not add up.</p><p><strong>Emotionally</strong>, workers compare their income with a global benchmark that is visible online but disconnected from the reality of the local market. It is hard not to feel short changed when someone in San Francisco casually mentions a salary that could purchase a small apartment in Jakarta every year.</p><p>Indonesia doesn&#8217;t lack talent. It lacks <strong><a href="https://documents.worldbank.org/en/publication/documents-reports/documentdetail/662461630655839357/structural-transformation-and-labor-productivity-in-indonesia-where-are-all-the-good-jobs">the economic structure that converts talent into exportable value</a></strong>.</p><p>But transformation <em>is</em> possible. Korea did it. Vietnam is doing it. India did it in services. China industrialized <em>hard</em>.</p><p>Indonesia can too.</p><p>Until then, Indonesians aren&#8217;t so much <em>underpaid</em> as they are:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Paid exactly what an economy built on selling coal, cooking oil, and domestic services can afford to pay.</strong></p></blockquote><p>The result feels unfair. In economic terms, however, it is largely consistent with the system producing it.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> help businesses understand compensation trends, labour regulations, and workforce planning across Indonesia. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> align talent, strategy, and business models with the realities of the local market.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/are-indonesian-workers-underpaid-economic-reality?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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Here&#8217;s what it genuinely means for households.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/middle-east-conflict-impact-indonesia-economy</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/middle-east-conflict-impact-indonesia-economy</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 05:47:18 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9rPa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c1c3f1b-7c6c-45cd-a048-958f2878463d_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!9rPa!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4c1c3f1b-7c6c-45cd-a048-958f2878463d_1792x1024.png" 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stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p></p><p>The latest conflict involving <strong>Israel</strong>, <strong>Iran</strong>, and the <strong>United States</strong> has spilled into the wider region, <a href="https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=65504">threatening the Strait of Hormuz</a> and reminding the world that yes, global peace is basically a Jenga tower built out of oil barrels.</p><p>In Indonesia, however, life goes on. </p><ul><li><p>Office workers sit in traffic with saintly calm, </p></li><li><p>Delivery drivers zigzag through gridlock, </p></li><li><p>Millions scroll past headlines as if geopolitics were a genre of fiction. </p></li></ul><p>There is a belief that being far away equals being safe. Seventeen thousand islands should count for something. Distance feels protective. It is not.</p><p>So, what does a four week crisis versus a twelve month conflict really mean for people here? For their jobs, their salaries, their groceries, and that background hum of anxiety that comes from knowing the fuel in your motorbike is priced in someone else&#8217;s war&#8230;</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>Four Weeks In: Business as Usual</strong></h3><p>If the conflict lasts only <strong>four weeks</strong>, here is the scientific, data-driven, IMF-approved, cutting-edge modelling outcome:</p><p><strong>Nothing much happens.</strong></p><ul><li><p>Yes, oil prices spike. </p></li><li><p>Yes, the Strait of Hormuz becomes the most searched location on Google. </p></li><li><p>Yes, Western news outlets panic for content.</p></li></ul><p>But inside Indonesia?</p><ul><li><p>Fuel prices? <strong>Same</strong>.</p></li><li><p>LPG for cooking? <strong>Same.</strong></p></li><li><p>Job market? <strong>Same ish</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Middle class lifestyle? <strong>Still mall + kopi susu + GrabFood.</strong></p></li><li><p>Government stance? &#8220;Please relax, everything is under control, we are having a meeting about a meeting.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Four weeks is simply not long enough for the machinery of daily life to truly adjust. Oil shipments are contracted months in advance. Inventories exist. Subsidy formulas are designed precisely for this kind of turbulence. Pertamina absorbs the pressure quietly, and the Ministry of Finance runs spreadsheets at 2am.</p><p>In fact, the only real difference will be:</p><ul><li><p>People will argue more on Twitter</p></li><li><p>Your uncle will forward 19 WhatsApp conspiracy theories</p></li><li><p>A handful of economists will suddenly get invited to talk shows</p></li></ul><p>Companies do not freeze hiring over a four week shock. HR departments do not cancel promotions because Brent crude had a bad month. Restaurants do not double prices overnight. Banks do not panic. The system is built to handle short storms.</p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s favourite defensive weapon, <strong>subsidies</strong>; acts like a big warm blanket over the economy. For at least a month, the government can hold the line by increasing compensation payments and hoping markets calm down.</p><p>In short:</p><blockquote><p><strong>FOUR WEEKS = A STORM YOU READ ABOUT ON THE NEWS WHILE ORDERING NASI GORENG.</strong></p></blockquote><p>No dramatic job market freeze, no apocalyptic cost of living shock, no sudden middle-class collapse. Just mild anxiety.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189633597?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!sbGC!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F736060dc-b625-42f4-b4e9-3bd8115b31eb_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Twelve Months In: The Slow Squeeze</strong></h3><p>Now let&#8217;s stretch this thing out to <strong>12 month</strong>. A full year of elevated oil prices, jittery markets, and governments pretending this is all manageable.</p><p>This is where Indonesia&#8217;s myth of being &#8220;self-reliant&#8221; dies.</p><ul><li><p>Yes, Indonesia has coal. Plenty of it.</p></li><li><p>Yes, Indonesia exports palm oil, nickel, and other commodities the world still wants.\</p></li><li><p>Yes, Indonesia produces some oil.</p></li></ul><p>But the truth is:</p><p><strong><a href="https://www.eia.gov/international/analysis/country/IDN">Indonesia imports around two-thirds of the oil it uses</a></strong>, making it not exactly &#8220;self-sustaining.&#8221;</p><p>When global oil stays high for months, the impact is incremental. Which makes it more dangerous.</p><h4><strong>The Cost of Living Climbs</strong></h4><ul><li><p>Motorbike fuel &#8594; up</p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.iisd.org/publications/digital-story/indonesia-energy-support-measures">Cooking gas</a> &#8594; up</p></li><li><p>Fried chicken portion &#8594; suspiciously smaller</p></li><li><p>Ride-hailing fees &#8594; get &#8220;adjusted&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Electricity? Depends which minister wakes up in a bad mood</p></li></ul><p>The government attempts to cushion the blow through subsidies and compensation schemes. That buys time. It does not eliminate cost. Eventually the fiscal pressure forces adjustments. </p><h4><strong>The Job Market Doesn&#8217;t Implode</strong></h4><p>No mass unemployment. Just:</p><ul><li><p>Hiring freezes in formal companies</p></li><li><p>Pay increments trimmed</p></li><li><p>Overtime reduced</p></li><li><p>More people <a href="https://www.bps.go.id/en/statistics-table/2/MjE1NSMy/proportion-of-informal-employment-in-total-employment-by-sex.html">pushed into gig work</a></p></li><li><p>Factories <a href="https://www.ft.com/content/0eb14dba-0fb3-40d0-9cf9-2687301aa38a">quietly shrinking headcount</a></p></li><li><p>HR departments rediscovering that word &#8220;cost-efficiency&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Meanwhile, <strong><a href="https://www.enerdata.net/estore/country-profiles/indonesia.html">coal, nickel and agribusiness</a></strong><a href="https://www.enerdata.net/estore/country-profiles/indonesia.html"> keep hiring</a>, offering stable but not exactly &#8220;I want to work here because it aligns with my passion&#8221; feels.</p><h4><strong>Middle Class Life Shifts From Comfortable to Cautious.</strong></h4><p>The Indonesian middle class doesn&#8217;t collapse under a 12-month shock, they:</p><ul><li><p>Take fewer holidays</p></li><li><p>Switch from Starbucks to Kopi Kenangan</p></li><li><p>Cut GrabFood from daily to twice a week</p></li><li><p>Start choosing cheaper brands</p></li><li><p>Talk nervously about school fees and mortgages</p></li></ul><p>The real danger is <strong>erosion</strong>, not catastrophe.</p><p>People survive, as they always do. They just feel poorer, incrementally more anxious, and incrementally less certain about the next year than the last.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189633597?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Risk of a Tipping Point</strong></h3><p>A 12 month crisis does not automatically push Indonesia into collapse. This is not <strong>Lebanon</strong>. It is not <strong>Sri Lanka</strong>. </p><ul><li><p>Public debt is manageable. </p></li><li><p>Foreign reserves are substantial. </p></li><li><p>Institutions are imperfect but functional.</p></li></ul><p> There is no immediate cliff edge where one bad headline triggers national chaos.</p><p>But it <strong>can</strong> reach a breaking point under certain conditions.</p><h4><strong>Condition 1: Global recession + expensive oil.</strong></h4><p>If China slows, the US slows, and the EU slows at the same time oil stays high, then:</p><ul><li><p>Indonesian exports weaken</p></li><li><p>Government revenue drops</p></li><li><p>Subsidies become harder to finance</p></li><li><p>The rupiah slides</p></li><li><p>Bank Indonesia must raise rates</p></li><li><p>Loans become expensive</p></li><li><p>Middle class households feel the pinch hard</p></li></ul><h4><strong>Condition 2: Large fuel price hikes.</strong></h4><p>Indonesians are famously patient&#8230; <strong>until</strong> fuel prices jump overnight.</p><p>Then:</p><ul><li><p>Memes intensify</p></li><li><p>Street protests appear</p></li><li><p>Parliament pretends to be shocked</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Subsidy reforms&#8221; get postponed until the end of time</p></li></ul><h4><strong>Condition 3: Youth underemployment worsens.</strong></h4><p>NEET youth already <a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/indonesia/share-of-youth-not-in-education-employment-or-training-total-percent-of-youth-population-wb-data.html">make up more than </a><strong><a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/indonesia/share-of-youth-not-in-education-employment-or-training-total-percent-of-youth-population-wb-data.html">20%</a></strong><a href="https://tradingeconomics.com/indonesia/share-of-youth-not-in-education-employment-or-training-total-percent-of-youth-population-wb-data.html"> of the population</a>. Add long-term higher living costs and slower hiring, and you create a generation of:</p><ul><li><p>Gig workers</p></li><li><p>Part-time hope-holders</p></li><li><p>Digital hustlers</p></li><li><p>People who did a degree but now sell skincare online</p></li></ul><p>This is not instability in the street-protest sense, but a long-term weakening of national productivity and optimism.</p><p>Indonesia is unlikely to explode. The greater risk is a gradual deflation of confidence. A population that keeps functioning but with reduced momentum. Not crisis television drama. More like a system losing a little pressure each year until it feels permanently subdued rather than temporarily stressed.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189633597?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!mO_3!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F0fb4450e-984d-4717-87fd-b1fdc11ac75b_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>Is Indonesia Well Positioned? Yes and No</strong></h3><p>Indonesia is neither fragile nor invincible. It sits somewhere in that middle space where survival is likely but comfort is not guaranteed.</p><h4><strong>YES &#8211; Indonesia is well positioned because:</strong></h4><ul><li><p>It has domestic coal</p></li><li><p>Its economy is driven by domestic consumption, not exports</p></li><li><p>It has <a href="https://www.bi.go.id/en/statistik/indikator/cadangan-devisa">large foreign reserves</a></p></li><li><p>It has experience managing crises</p></li><li><p>The government can subsidize almost anything if sufficiently panicked</p></li><li><p>People are adaptable and endlessly entrepreneurial</p></li><li><p>Families act as the real welfare system (&#8220;pulang kampung dulu ya, kerja apa aja&#8221;)</p></li></ul><p>Now the uncomfortable half.</p><h4><strong>NO &#8211; Indonesia is not well positioned because:</strong></h4><ul><li><p>It imports most of its oil</p></li><li><p>It relies heavily on cheap LPG for cooking</p></li><li><p>A majority of workers are in the informal sector</p></li><li><p>Manufacturing is weakening</p></li><li><p>Youth unemployment is a creeping crisis</p></li><li><p>Subsidies are eating the budget alive</p></li><li><p>Education-to-job mismatches are everywhere</p></li></ul><p>So is Indonesia well positioned?</p><p>Yes, in the sense that it can endure turbulence without systemic collapse.</p><p>No, in the sense that endurance is not prosperity.</p><p>Indonesia is positioned to absorb pain. It is not perfectly positioned to avoid feeling it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189633597?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!MTii!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c96db84-4faf-478b-848f-a9863143ad89_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>A four week crisis is largely psychological. Stretch that to twelve months and the shift becomes tangible.</p><ul><li><p><strong>4-week crisis</strong> &#8594; mostly noise; mild anxiety; no major change.</p></li><li><p><strong>12-month crisis</strong> &#8594; real economic pressure, slower hiring, rising living costs, and a squeeze on lower-middle and middle-class Indonesians.</p></li></ul><p>There is no dramatic implosion. What changes is trajectory.</p><ul><li><p>Growth becomes harder. </p></li><li><p>Mobility becomes slower. </p></li><li><p>Career paths become less linear and more improvised. </p></li><li><p>Hustling increases. </p></li><li><p>Saving becomes inconsistent. </p></li><li><p>Anxiety settles into the background hum of daily life.</p></li></ul><p>Indonesia&#8217;s strengths help it survive shocks. Resilience, informality, resource exports, and demographic size cushion impact. But energy dependence, subsidy burdens and skills mismatches determine <strong>how much pain</strong> the average household feels in the process.</p><p>This is not doom.</p><p>This is not collapse.</p><p>This is <strong>the messy middle</strong>: the zone where life still goes on, but harder, costlier, and with more &#8220;ya sudahlah&#8221; than anyone would prefer.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we help organisation anticipate change, protect talent, and redesign workforce strategy. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to understand how macro risks translate into hiring, retention, and workforce resilience.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/middle-east-conflict-impact-indonesia-economy?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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But can Indonesia retain its top talent in a global job market?]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/lpdp-scholarship-nation-building-or-exit-plan</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/lpdp-scholarship-nation-building-or-exit-plan</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2026 23:07:44 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkJh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff243c45-2f5a-445d-88d7-e5b87afb1f9a_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!dkJh!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fff243c45-2f5a-445d-88d7-e5b87afb1f9a_1792x1024.png" 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Indonesia&#8217;s <a href="https://lpdp.kemenkeu.go.id/">LPDP scholarship programme</a> is, on paper, a fantastic national investment. It is a benevolent machine that takes bright Indonesian minds, shoves them lovingly into world class universities abroad, and then gently, contractually, drags them back home to fix the country. It is the intellectual equivalent of sending your child to Harvard and then reminding them, every other week:</p><p>&#8220;<em>Nanti pulang ya. Mama tunggu.</em>&#8221;</p><p>The idea is simple. </p><ul><li><p>The state invests in human capital. </p></li><li><p>The scholars return with sharper skills, and global networks. </p></li><li><p>The nation upgrades itself. </p></li><li><p>Everyone applauds.</p></li></ul><p>But somewhere along the way, LPDP became the only government programme simultaneously accused of:</p><ul><li><p>Investing brilliantly in future leaders, </p></li><li><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia_Endowment_Fund_for_Education?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Wasting money on people who end up living in Amsterdam and posting photos of their dual nationality babies</a>, </p></li><li><p>Functioning as a spiritual pilgrimage for Indonesians searching for enlightenment.</p></li></ul><p>In one corner, supporters point to thousands of alumni working in ministries, hospitals, universities, and start ups. In the other, critics gesture toward a handful of viral stories and ask why taxpayers are funding what looks a lot like a first class boarding pass out of Soekarno Hatta.</p><p>So now Indonesians are debating: </p><p><strong>Is LPDP a nation-building engine&#8230; or the world&#8217;s most academically prestigious version of #KaburAjaDulu?</strong></p><p>The truth, of course, is somewhere in between.</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>The Ambition Behind LPDP</h3><p>LPDP&#8217;s founding vision was simple:</p><p><strong>&#8220;<a href="https://en.antaranews.com/news/366573/lpdp-provides-rp154-trillion-in-education-grants-in-2010-2025?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Let&#8217;s invest hundreds of trillions in education</a> so Indonesia can finally afford competent policymakers, researchers, engineers, and doctors who won&#8217;t quit by year three to sell skincare online.&#8221;</strong></p><p>Everyone agreed. It was brilliant. It sounded like something a serious country does when it decides it is tired of being &#8220;developing&#8221; and would quite like to try being &#8220;advanced&#8221; for a change.</p><p>And honestly, the scheme works.</p><p>Thousands of high achieving students with strong academic records and even stronger essays about &#8220;contributing to Indonesia&#8221; are <a href="https://databoks.katadata.co.id/en/education/statistics/68f9880b7dd53/details-of-lpdp-scholarship-recipients-until-september-2025-majority-are-masters-students?utm_source=chatgpt.com">sent to top universities abroad</a>. </p><ul><li><p>They learn how functioning bureaucracies operate. </p></li><li><p>They attend seminars where people disagree without throwing chairs. </p></li><li><p>They discover that waste can be sorted into more than two categories. </p></li><li><p>They learn about <a href="https://www.britishcouncilfoundation.id/en/blog/ielts/ultimate-guide-lpdp-scholarship?utm_source=chatgpt.com">innovation, governance, and sustainability</a>.</p></li></ul><p>LPDP graduates return home transformed.</p><ul><li><p>They speak fluent English and sometimes fluent Dutch.</p></li><li><p>They begin sentences with &#8220;Based on my research&#8230;&#8221;</p></li><li><p>They complain about public infrastructure with newfound passion,</p></li></ul><p>And occasionally, they stare out of office windows contemplating whether Indonesia is ready for their talents. The answer is often complicated.</p><p>The State hoped to build a generation of technocrats who can modernize ministries, reform institutions, strengthen universities, and push the country <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/indonesias-plan-next-singapore-dubai-ambition-meet-leigh-mckiernon-crdjf">toward 2045 and beyond</a></strong>.</p><p>What it also built, perhaps unintentionally, was a generation of hyper mobile global citizens. People who have seen efficient cities, competitive salaries, transparent systems, and laboratories that do not run out of reagents halfway through a grant cycle.</p><p>So when they sit in Jakarta traffic for two hours, the thought does occasionally arise.</p><p><strong>&#8220;Yes, I love my country&#8230; but also: Singapore exists.&#8221;</strong></p><p>LPDP&#8217;s genius is also its flaw. It exposes Indonesians to the outside world. And once you have seen how smoothly other systems run, it becomes harder to pretend you have not.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189590652?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!wMAR!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe9b3cc8c-07c1-49bb-88cc-f744dcbc7571_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>The Promise to Come Home</h3><p>LPDP requires its scholars to return home and <em>serve the nation for several years</em>. It&#8217;s a rule that appears, in theory, to close the loop between investment and return. The state funds your degree, and you fund the state with your labor.</p><p>Everyone signs with pride and optimism. The dream is sincere. Then they board a plane to Europe thinking, </p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Ya nanti lah balik. Kan 2028 masih lama.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>And to be fair, most do come back. Official figures consistently show that the percentage who genuinely disappear and never fulfill their obligations is below 1%.</p><p>But the <strong>feeling</strong> among ordinary Indonesians is the exact opposite.</p><p>Why?</p><p>Because the 1 percent who leave are extremely visible. They tend to:</p><ul><li><p>Become influencers in snowy countries,</p></li><li><p>Post photos captioned &#8220;Indonesia &lt;3 but healing dulu ya,&#8221;</p></li><li><p>Accidentally go viral for celebrating their baby&#8217;s foreign passport while explaining why their own is &#8220;too weak for this world.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>In a country where humility is a deeply ingrained social value, nothing irritates the collective conscience more than someone who:</p><ol><li><p>Took taxpayer money.</p></li><li><p>Studied abroad.</p></li><li><p>Achieved success.</p></li><li><p>Then said, &#8220;Thanks Indonesia! Anyway, my <em>real</em> home now is Utrecht.&#8221;</p></li></ol><p>Sure, the vast majority of LPDP alumni return and fulfill their obligations.</p><ul><li><p>They teach. </p></li><li><p>They enter ministries. </p></li><li><p>They draft policy papers. </p></li><li><p>They help local communities,</p></li><li><p>They build startups. </p></li><li><p>They don&#8217;t make cinematic unboxing videos of their children&#8217;s passports.</p></li></ul><p>But the public doesn&#8217;t see that.</p><p>One viral clip can outweigh thousands of silent years of public service. One British Home Office envelope can reframe an entire national investment. And suddenly, in the public imagination, LPDP looks like a billion rupiah escape room challenge, sponsored by Indonesian taxpayers. Solve the scholarship, collect the degree, <a href="https://jakartaglobe.id/news/lpdp-orders-alumni-to-repay-up-to-rp-2b-for-failing-to-return-to-indonesia?utm_source=chatgpt.com">find the exit</a>.</p><p>Reality says 99 percent return. Emotion remembers the one who did not.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189590652?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Opportunity and Optics</h3><p>LPDP scholars <a href="https://lpdp.kemenkeu.go.id/storage/information/report/file/yearly/yearly_report_en_1756100833.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com">often come from modest backgrounds</a>, and that is part of its magic. It&#8217;s a machine that takes ordinary kids and transforms them into extraordinary, internationally-trained intellectual weapons.</p><p>This is the hopeful side of LPDP. It says that brilliance from a rural school can compete with brilliance from Jakarta. It is social mobility.</p><p>But LPDP also funds children of wealthy elites, and that is where satire begins writing itself.</p><p>Imagine an affirmative scholarship program designed to:</p><ul><li><p>Uplift students from 3T regions, </p></li><li><p>Support students with disabilities, and expand access to those historically underrepresented. </p></li></ul><p>Then add to that list the occasional child of a government official with six PhDs, and a house in BSD the size of a European airport.</p><p>To be fair, they still pass the same selection process. They sit the same tests. They submit the same essays about contribution to Indonesia. LPDP is not, and never claimed to be, a &#8220;scholarship for the poor.&#8221;</p><p>But the optics?</p><p>When a recipient from a visibly privileged background later says things like:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Indonesia is great, but I&#8217;d rather my kids be citizens of countries with good healthcare and low corruption heheheh.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>The narrative shifts quickly. LPDP starts looking like a VIP immigration lounge underwritten by taxpayers.</p><p>Indonesians are deeply patriotic, but they are also keen observers of inequality. When privilege appears to stack upon privilege, cynicism becomes the default response. </p><p><strong>&#8220;Oh, jadi LPDP itu semacam jalur cepat jadi ekspatriat ya?&#8221;</strong></p><p>Of course, this is exaggeration. Many elite recipients contribute meaningfully. Many modest recipients succeed quietly. The system is more complex than the meme.</p><p>LPDP expands opportunity, but it also exposes the persistent tension between merit, privilege, and perception in a country still negotiating what fairness should look like.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ebe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189590652?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LSfg!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Febe46f90-6191-422c-8b06-eefa398811bb_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Why Coming Back Is Complicated</h3><p>Indonesia is not losing some of its scholars because they are inherently ungrateful or morally defective. It is losing some of them because it is competing in a global market for talent. And that market is not sentimental.</p><p>On one side stands Indonesia with its ambition, its growth, its optimism. On the other side stand </p><ul><li><p>Europe&#8217;s research infrastructure, </p></li><li><p>Australia&#8217;s salaries, </p></li><li><p>America&#8217;s insane but magnetic job market.</p></li></ul><p>LPDP <a href="https://databoks.katadata.co.id/en/education/statistics/68f9880b7dd53/details-of-lpdp-scholarship-recipients-until-september-2025-majority-are-masters-students?utm_source=chatgpt.com">produces graduates who are</a>:</p><ul><li><p>globally employable,</p></li><li><p>overqualified by local standards,</p></li><li><p>extremely adaptable abroad,</p></li><li><p>and sometimes <em><a href="https://kumparan.com/kumparanbisnis/alumni-lpdp-tak-kembali-ke-ri-ekonom-risiko-kebocoran-investasi-apbn-menguat-26ucD3JjzCh?utm_source=chatgpt.com">underpaid</a></em><a href="https://kumparan.com/kumparanbisnis/alumni-lpdp-tak-kembali-ke-ri-ekonom-risiko-kebocoran-investasi-apbn-menguat-26ucD3JjzCh?utm_source=chatgpt.com"> when they return home</a>.</p></li></ul><p>This is not because Indonesia doesn&#8217;t want them. Indonesia <em>needs</em> them. But it often lacks the ecosystem to fully utilize them. There are not always enough:</p><ul><li><p>Well equipped laboratories.</p></li><li><p>Highly specialized roles.</p></li><li><p>Salaries that reflect international training. </p></li><li><p>Institutions structured to absorb this much high-end talent.</p></li></ul><p>So a graduate comes back with a fresh degree, strong ideas, and expectations shaped by their time abroad. They encounter rigid hierarchies, unclear career pathways, and bureaucratic bottlenecks.</p><p><strong><a href="https://kumparan.com/kumparanbisnis/alumni-lpdp-tak-kembali-ke-ri-ekonom-risiko-kebocoran-investasi-apbn-menguat-26ucD3JjzCh?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Reverse culture shock</a></strong> is real. It is the moment you realize the grant process takes six months longer than it should. It is the meeting that could have been an email. It is the internal debate about whether professional growth requires geographic mobility.</p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s economy is growing but its <strong>capacity to absorb PhDs is not always growing at the same speed</strong>.</p><p>Thus the paradox.</p><ul><li><p>LPDP produces brilliant minds.</p></li><li><p>Brilliant minds want challenging opportunities.</p></li><li><p>Challenging opportunities sometimes live&#8230; not in Jakarta.</p></li></ul><p>This is not betrayal. It&#8217;s supply and demand shaped by global opportunity.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/189590652?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!CFoZ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F72730fa8-596b-45f3-8b0f-5ea1e6db6633_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>LPDP is one of the most impressive scholarship systems in the developing world. It is a serious, well funded attempt to engineer long term national progress through human capital.</p><ul><li><p>It <a href="https://lpdp.kemenkeu.go.id/storage/information/report/file/yearly/yearly_report_en_1750064904.pdf?utm_source=chatgpt.com">accelerates human capital</a>.</p></li><li><p>It uplifts thousands of families who would otherwise never see the inside of a top global university.</p></li><li><p>It builds national expertise in medicine, policy, engineering, research, and technology.</p></li><li><p>It sends Indonesians into global arenas where they compete, win, publish, lead.</p></li></ul><p>It is ambitious. It is strategic. It is transformative.</p><p>But LPDP also exposes a difficult reality:</p><p><strong>You cannot send people to world-class environments and expect them to return joyfully if you do not make home feel world-class too.</strong></p><p>Indonesia does not have a runaway scholar crisis. The compliance data proves that. What it has is a <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dear-indonesia-other-countries-treating-your-talent-better-mckiernon-kwaic">talent retention challenge</a></strong>. Highly trained professionals compare opportunities, assess working conditions, and calculate long term trajectories.</p><p>The solution is structural. Invest not only in sending brilliant people abroad, but in building laboratories, institutions, career pathways, and compensation systems that can harness their capabilities.</p><p>Make returning feel like advancement, not sacrifice.</p><p>Until then, LPDP will remain both inspiring and faintly ironic.</p><ul><li><p>99% patriotic nation-building,</p></li><li><p>1% unintentional subsidised migration programme,</p></li><li><p>and 100% guaranteed to spark arguments on Twitter whenever anyone posts a foreign passport unboxing video.</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we help organisations turn globally trained talent into long-term institutional advantage. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> if you're interested in designing competitive, future-ready HR strategies that attract and retain high-calibre talent.</strong></p><div class="captioned-button-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/p/lpdp-scholarship-nation-building-or-exit-plan?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;}" data-component-name="CaptionedButtonToDOM"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Thanks for reading Career Candour! 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isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/human-capital-cost-of-corruption-indonesia</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2026 23:00:41 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LmT1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffde1fa1f-a9cc-42ec-a717-a08933b87cf4_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LmT1!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffde1fa1f-a9cc-42ec-a717-a08933b87cf4_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LmT1!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffde1fa1f-a9cc-42ec-a717-a08933b87cf4_1792x1024.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LmT1!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffde1fa1f-a9cc-42ec-a717-a08933b87cf4_1792x1024.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LmT1!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffde1fa1f-a9cc-42ec-a717-a08933b87cf4_1792x1024.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!LmT1!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ffde1fa1f-a9cc-42ec-a717-a08933b87cf4_1792x1024.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img 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class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg role="img" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><title></title><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Indonesia has once again <a href="https://www.transparency.org/en/countries/indonesia">slipped down the global corruption rankings</a>. Ten places. Three points.</p><p>Again.</p><p>The fact that this still gets printed as &#8220;news&#8221; is quaint. It&#8217;s like announcing that Jakarta traffic is bad or that nasi padang is delicious. <strong>We know. We&#8217;ve known. Our ancestors knew.</strong> Paleolithic cave paintings probably included a bupati exchanging goats for permits.</p><p>While the fall itself isn&#8217;t shocking, the deeper implications <em>should</em> be&#8230; and not for the reasons most people think. Because <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2646704">the real casualty of corruption isn&#8217;t just FDI, or institutional trust.</a></p><p><strong><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2949791423000313">It&#8217;s human capital</a>. Your human capital. Indonesia&#8217;s human capital.</strong></p><p>We are talking about the <em>global perception</em> of Indonesian talent: </p><ul><li><p>How international firms view Indonesian professionals, </p></li><li><p>How Indonesian work experience travels abroad, and </p></li><li><p>How expats who stay too long start learning a set of rules that are difficult to translate back into places where the rules are actually rules.</p></li></ul><p>So yes, another index, another sigh. But this year, try something different. Look at the score and ask what it is doing to the value of your work.-</p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3><strong>When Corruption Stops Being News</strong></h3><p>Every year when the new Corruption Perceptions Index (CPI) drops, Indonesia reacts with the same energy as someone opening a bank statement they know will be bad:</p><p><em>&#8220;Ya ampun&#8230; oh well.&#8221;</em></p><ul><li><p>Politicians issue statements about &#8220;evaluation&#8221; and &#8220;commitment.&#8221; </p></li><li><p>NGOs publish statements that could have been written three years ago.</p></li><li><p>Talk shows briefly rediscover the word &#8220;reform.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>The rest of the country responds with weary familiarity.</p></li></ul><p>And to be fair, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/government-and-opposition/article/why-anticorruption-reforms-fail/">corruption has become a national constant</a>. You can plan around it. Like Ramadan, Lebaran traffic, and the certainty that any government technology project will somehow cost more than a small moon landing.</p><p>The real tragedy is not that corruption exists. Many countries have corruption and still manage to function. The tragedy is that Indonesia&#8217;s corruption has become so ordinary that it barely registers as a problem anymore. It no longer shocks, provokes, or mobilises. It is simply background noise.</p><p>At this point, corruption is almost localised. It comes in different flavours, different intensities, and different price points, but it is always present. Everyone knows where it lives, how it works, and which doors it quietly opens.</p><p>And because the story is so familiar, we stop questioning the shadow it casts. Especially the shadow it casts over something Indonesia desperately wants to boast about:</p><p><strong>Its talent. Its workforce. Its human capital.</strong></p><p>In global perception terms, Indonesia is increasingly seen as <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0969593112000248">a place where success feels suspect</a>. Where competence is quietly discounted. Where the assumption, fair or not, is that merit alone is rarely the full explanation.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/eb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188671220?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!nY2I!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb3ccbb7-042a-4ac4-bdc6-c6e0780060f6_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Human Capital Discount</strong></h3><p>Here is the part that almost no one talks about.</p><p><strong>Corruption does not just hollow out institutions. <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305750X06000331">It tanks salaries. Careers. Reputations. Opportunities</a>.</strong></p><p>It turns what should be a discussion about competence into a discussion about risk.</p><p><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/3875209">International companies don&#8217;t just invest capital; they evaluate </a><em><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/3875209">human</a></em><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/3875209"> capital</a>. And whether Indonesians like it or not, the CPI score becomes a background variable in that pricing model.</p><p>Imagine a CEO in London reviewing a role in Indonesia:</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;We need strong talent, high integrity, ability to navigate complexity&#8230; wait, CPI 34? Oh boy.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p>Suddenly, instead of:</p><p><strong>&#8220;What can Indonesian professionals bring to the table?&#8221;</strong></p><p>the internal monologue becomes:</p><p><strong>&#8220;How many controls do we need? Who signs off on what? How many training modules on bribery reporting must we inflict before onboarding?&#8221;</strong></p><p>This fog of suspicion, totally unfair to many Indonesians, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/3875204">does the following</a>:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Depresses salary expectations</strong> (&#8220;We should pay less because risk-adjusted productivity is lower.&#8221;)</p></li><li><p><strong>Narrows roles</strong> (&#8220;Let&#8217;s keep strategic decisions with expats just to be safe.&#8221;)</p></li><li><p><strong>Erects invisible ceilings</strong> (&#8220;Local staff are great operationally, but global leadership? Hmmm.&#8221;)</p></li></ul><p>Foreign firms do not assume that every Indonesian professional is corrupt. That would be too crude. Instead, corruption is treated as <strong>ambient</strong>. Like humidity.</p><p>So even the most ethical, competent Indonesian professional starts from a defensive position. </p><ul><li><p>Their achievements are scrutinized more closely. </p></li><li><p>Their <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/30026600">integrity must be demonstrated, not presumed</a>. </p></li><li><p>Their ceiling is lower until someone at headquarters feels unusually brave.</p></li></ul><p>This is guilt by association at scale. A low-grade haze that dulls how talent is perceived, no matter how hard individuals try to shine through it.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188671220?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Perception Penalty</strong></h3><p>Now let&#8217;s talk about Indonesians trying to take their careers abroad.</p><p>In a fair universe, Indonesian professionals who have succeeded despite inconsistent regulation, bureaucratic friction, and sudden rule changes would be viewed as unusually capable. They have operated in environments where clarity is rare, processes shift midstream, and outcomes require persistence as much as skill. They should be globally celebrated as <strong>elite problem-solvers</strong>.</p><p>But <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/1815089">global labour markets operate on heuristics</a>.</p><p>Global recruiters aren&#8217;t thinking:</p><p>&#8220;Wow, you delivered results despite institutional entropy. Hire this genius immediately.&#8221;</p><p>They&#8217;re thinking:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;How much of this achievement was&#8230; clean?&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Will this person understand compliance in a system where we follow laws as&#8230; you know&#8230; laws?&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Why do they keep saying &#8216;bisa diatur&#8217; in interviews and smiling?&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>And boom. Your skills get discounted.</p><p>This is human capital depreciation in real time. Even individuals who never touched corruption find their experience framed as potentially compromised. </p><p>And this is where <a href="https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/55ce/d7c2e64c9888f7ea30d15595462fd02f5d4e.pdf">it becomes dangerous for Indonesia&#8217;s global competitiveness</a>:</p><p><strong>High corruption &#8594; low external trust &#8594; undervalued professionals &#8594; talent exodus &#8594; remaining talent pool weakens further &#8594; cycle accelerates.</strong></p><p>It is an efficient system. Unfortunately.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188671220?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!QssQ!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3b76730c-14d9-4f43-b389-aa769737700a_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Expatriate Fallout</strong></h3><p>Expats arrive bright-eyed, convinced that &#8220;emerging market experience&#8221; is the career accelerant nobody else is smart enough to pursue.</p><p>For the first year, they are right. Everything feels thrilling. </p><ul><li><p>The chaos!</p></li><li><p>The complexity!</p></li><li><p>The stories you&#8217;ll someday tell at a London dinner party!</p></li></ul><p>There is chaos, yes, but also momentum. It feels like growth.</p><p>But years 3, 4, and 5?</p><p>That&#8217;s where the global HR gods begin whispering:</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Ah, so you&#8217;ve spent half a decade in a market where half the job is knowing who to WhatsApp to get paperwork unstuck. Interesting.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p>CEO in Europe reviewing their CV:</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Impressive resilience&#8230; but does this person know how to function in a rules-first environment? Or <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320647464_How_expatriates_work_in_dangerous_environments_of_pervasive_corruption">have they become a black-belt in &#8216;creative compliance&#8217;?</a>&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p>And that is precisely when the doubts begin. Not locally, but externally.</p><p>Suddenly, the once-glorious &#8220;Indonesia assignment&#8221; transforms into:</p><ul><li><p>A badge of honour <em>only</em> if you&#8217;re applying for similar roles in equally chaotic markets, or</p></li><li><p>A less attractive credential if you&#8217;re aiming for Switzerland, Singapore, Denmark, or <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/2640451">anywhere that treats compliance as infrastructure</a>.</p></li></ul><p>This is the expat dilemma.</p><p><strong>&#8220;Did Indonesia improve my adaptability, or did it make me unhirable anywhere that does business properly?&#8221;</strong></p><p>It's a valid question.. And it should concern Indonesians as much as expats.</p><p>If <em>expats</em> struggle to translate Indonesian experience to high-governance markets, imagine the steeper hill Indonesians must climb to prove their excellence wasn&#8217;t achieved through &#8220;alternative methods.&#8221;</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188671220?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!n6-s!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F82697d15-6cf2-43d6-80bd-a89ce99a6ea8_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3><strong>The Real Cost of Corruption</strong></h3><p>While Indonesians have grown numb to corruption, <em>&#8220;Ya sudah lah, that&#8217;s just how things work&#8230;&#8221;</em> they&#8217;ve <strong>underestimated the single most important consequence</strong>:</p><blockquote><p>Corruption is destroying the global credibility of Indonesia&#8217;s human capital.</p></blockquote><p>When corruption becomes systemic, the message it sends is corrosive. </p><ol><li><p>The world doubts the <strong>integrity</strong> of institutions &#8594;</p></li><li><p>Which leads to doubting the <strong>fairness</strong> of promotions &#8594;</p></li><li><p>Which leads to doubting the <strong>validity</strong> of achievements &#8594;</p></li><li><p>Which results in discounting the <strong>competence</strong> of people &#8594;</p></li><li><p>Which lowers <strong>salary offers</strong>, slows <strong>career mobility</strong>, and raises <strong>barriers</strong> abroad.</p></li></ol><p>At that point, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/government-and-opposition/article/why-anticorruption-reforms-fail/">individuals pay the price</a>.</p><p>Indonesian professionals are asked to prove their worth more often and more explicitly than peers from lower corruption environments. None of it appears in policy papers, it happens behind closed doors, one hiring decision at a time.</p><p>This is the real cost hidden inside CPI drops. Not the scandals. Not the abstract trillions lost to inefficiency.</p><p><strong>It is the markdown of personal market value.</strong></p><p>Not because of who someone is, but because of what the system they come from is assumed to represent.</p><p><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/1913237">Human capital is the engine of national prosperity</a>. Indonesia has one of the largest and youngest engines in the world. Right now, that engine is being undervalued globally before it&#8217;s even allowed to rev.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://careercandour.com/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/dc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:116584,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188671220?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Jits!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fdc37aad5-c968-4683-b3dc-3d17b2961331_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>Most people do not wake up in the morning ready to fight corruption out of civic duty. Or patriotism. Or philosophical commitment to good governance. </p><p>But people <em>will</em> change when it threatens something they care about:</p><p><strong>Their own careers. Their salary potential. Their children&#8217;s futures. The value of their professional reputation.</strong></p><p>This is why the conversation around corruption needs to change. </p><ul><li><p>Moralising has not worked. </p></li><li><p>Public shaming has limited impact. </p></li></ul><p>What might work is reframing corruption as a direct attack on individual opportunity.</p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Corruption is robbing you of global respect, higher pay, and better opportunities.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>That&#8217;s personal.</p><p>Indonesia&#8217;s corruption ranking may no longer shock anyone. What should shock people is how efficiently it is shrinking Indonesia&#8217;s presence in the global talent market. Every point lost is another layer of doubt added to the country&#8217;s professional brand.</p><p>If Indonesians understood that corruption isn&#8217;t just a governance issue but a <strong>human capital catastrophe</strong>, maybe the movement toward reform would accelerate.</p><p>Corruption doesn&#8217;t just hurt the economy.</p><p>It hurts <em>you</em>.</p><ul><li><p>Your career.</p></li><li><p>Your reputation.</p></li><li><p>Your value.</p></li></ul><p>If that does not trigger urgency, nothing will.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://stratex.asia/">StratEx - Indonesia Business Advisory</a> we advise organisations in Indonesia on how to structure roles, rewards, and leadership models. <a href="https://stratex.asia/lets-talk/">Contact us</a> to align your human capital strategies with international expectations of integrity, performance, and accountability.</strong></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[Why “Why Are You Here?” Is the Most Misanswered Interview Question]]></title><description><![CDATA[Most job candidates focus on what they&#8217;re escaping. Smart ones focus on what they&#8217;re choosing. Here&#8217;s how to get it right.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/why-are-you-here-interview-mistake</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/why-are-you-here-interview-mistake</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 03:50:26 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gsfB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c352151-c5df-4cdd-ac11-eaa4bde51820_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!gsfB!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8c352151-c5df-4cdd-ac11-eaa4bde51820_1792x1024.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source 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and these humans.</strong></p><p>Instead, something short-circuits. The candidate&#8217;s frontal cortex collapses into a nostalgic slideshow of everything they hate about their current job. </p><ul><li><p>Toxic culture. </p></li><li><p>Limited growth. </p></li><li><p>Leadership chaos.</p></li></ul><p>It&#8217;s like the interviewer asked,</p><p>&#8220;Hey, could you trauma-dump for 12 minutes straight?&#8221;</p><p>and the candidate cheerfully replied,</p><p>&#8220;Absolutely, I&#8217;ve been rehearsing!&#8221;</p><p>This article is a look at why that happens, and how to prevent joining the global epidemic of people who seem hell-bent on answering:</p><p><strong>&#8220;Why are you HERE?&#8221;</strong></p><p>with</p><p><strong>&#8220;Let me tell you where I&#8217;d RATHER not be.&#8221;</strong></p><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h3>Why Smart People Answer This Badly</h3><p>If you have ever answered the &#8220;Why are you here?&#8221; question with a detailed critique of your current employer&#8217;s incompetence, <strong>your brain betrayed you</strong>.</p><p>Not because you&#8217;re dumb. But because your brain is ancient hardware operating in modern settings. </p><p>Your nervous system evolved to <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1037/1089-2680.5.4.323">scan for threat, store it, and replay it</a>. It did not evolve to distinguish between &#8220;tiger in bush&#8221; and &#8220;vaguely ambiguous corporate question.&#8221; To your brain, both are stressors. And when stress rises, <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17576285/">it retrieves emotionally charged material first</a>. From a survival standpoint, negative information is gold, but from an interview standpoint, it&#8217;s conversational sabotage.</p><h4>Negativity Bias</h4><p>Humans are <a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1037/1089-2680.5.4.323">wired to remember danger, threats</a>, and all the times your boss &#8220;Karened&#8221; abruptly during an all-hands meeting. That&#8217;s why, the moment an interviewer casually asks, &#8220;What brings you here?&#8221; your neural pathways sprint toward the freshest source of pain:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;There&#8217;s no growth!&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;The culture is broken!&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;My manager communicates exclusively through passive-aggressive WhatsApps!&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Your brain keeps these grievances on speed-dial.</p><h4>Rumination</h4><p>If you&#8217;ve been unhappy in your job, you&#8217;ve been <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10842418/">mentally rehearsing that unhappiness on loop</a> for months. So when a stressful question arrives, your brain doesn&#8217;t grab the carefully crafted &#8220;Why THIS role?&#8221; monologue you wrote last night.</p><p>No. It grabs the <strong>rage-speech</strong> from your commute.</p><h4>Social Anxiety</h4><p>Interviews trigger the classic <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1990-98845-000">&#8220;perform or perish&#8221; instinct</a>. Under stress, the <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12034184/">brain defaults to over-explaining</a>. And nothing is easier to over-explain than:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;Why my current job is a hot mess.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Why Jane in Accounts must be stopped.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Why I deserve better.&#8221;</p></li></ul><h4>Identity Protection</h4><p>Talking about how terrible your current job is feels good because it <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15535792/">protects your self-esteem</a>. </p><ul><li><p>You weren&#8217;t &#8220;not progressing,&#8221; your company is &#8220;anti-growth.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>You didn&#8217;t &#8220;outgrow your role,&#8221; your manager &#8220;forgot your existence.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>But none of this is what the interviewer asked.</p><p>Or wants.</p><p>Or enjoys.</p><p>Yet candidates default to it anyway, like moths to a flame.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188571008?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!TMNe!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5963342c-7dc9-45db-a703-32c48bba3528_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Where Candidates Go Wrong</h3><p>To be fair, companies do not always help. &#8220;Why are you here?&#8221; is vague. But even so, the number of candidates who interpret it as &#8220;Please narrate your suffering&#8221; is astonishing.</p><h4>Mistake #1: Treating the Interview Like Group Therapy</h4><p>When someone asks, &#8220;Why are you here?&#8221; they are not inviting you to unpack unresolved workplace trauma. They are <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-13847-004">assessing fit</a>.</p><p>And yet, candidates frequently respond as though the hiring manager has gently leaned forward and whispered, &#8220;Tell me everything.&#8221;</p><p>Out come:</p><ul><li><p>Their grievances</p></li><li><p>Their burnout</p></li><li><p>Their Greek tragedy of workplace suffering</p></li></ul><p>No hiring manager has ever thought, &#8220;Wow, this person seems emotionally raw and resentful, we should totally hire them.&#8221;</p><p>Vulnerability has its place. A recruitment screening call is not that place.</p><h4>Mistake #2: The Push Monologue</h4><ul><li><p>Push factors = reasons you want to <strong>leave</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Pull factors = reasons you want to <strong>join</strong>.</p></li></ul><p>Candidates often catalogue every frustration in forensic detail, then tack on a polite, last-second, &#8220;And I thought this looked interesting.&#8221;</p><p>Push becomes the feature presentation. Pull is the end credit scene.</p><p>If the goal is to <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S000187912200053X">persuade someone you want to be here</a>, dedicating 80% of your answer to why you want to be somewhere else is an odd strategy.</p><h4>Mistake #3: Generic Motivations</h4><p>These include:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;The salary is attractive.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;I like that it&#8217;s closer to home.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a reputable company.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>Fantastic. Truly <a href="https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/SDT/documents/2000_RyanDeci_SDT.pdf">life-changing motivators</a>.</p><p>Except&#8230; <em>20&#8211;50 other companies</em> offer the same things.</p><p>These reasons don&#8217;t say <strong>&#8220;I want YOU.&#8221;</strong></p><p>They say <strong>&#8220;I would have joined whoever contacted me first.&#8221;</strong></p><h4>Mistake #4: Synthetic Flattery</h4><p>Examples include:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;You seem like a great manager&#8221; (after 18 minutes of knowing them)</p></li><li><p>&#8220;This company is a perfect cultural match&#8221; (after reading 1 Glassdoor review)</p></li><li><p>&#8220;I admire everything you do here&#8221; (everything??)</p></li></ul><p>Grounded appreciation works. Vague praise does not. <a href="https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01294/full">Humans have remarkably sensitive radar for insincerity</a>, especially when it is aimed directly at their ego.</p><h4>Mistake #5: Forgetting That Interviewers Are People</h4><p>Interviewers are not soulless gatekeepers. They too want:</p><ul><li><p>To feel their company is desirable</p></li><li><p>To believe their decision to join was wise</p></li><li><p>To validate their identity through your interest</p></li></ul><p>When you talk about why <em>specifically</em> you want to join their team, you&#8217;re affirming not only the organisation but their decision to commit to it.</p><p>That validation matters <a href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/social-identity-theory.html">more than candidates realise</a>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188571008?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>Push vs Pull: What They Actually Mean</h3><p>Push factors are the reasons you are leaving. Pull factors are the reasons you are choosing this next step. Both exist. Both matter.</p><h4>Push Factors: The Art of Restraint</h4><p>Push factors are not inherently negative. </p><ul><li><p>Plateaued growth, </p></li><li><p>Limited scope, </p></li><li><p>Strategic shifts, </p></li><li><p>Cultural mismatch. </p></li></ul><p>These are legitimate career inflection points. The problem is marinating in them.</p><p>Good Push answer:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I have learned a great deal in my current role, but the progression opportunities are limited and I am ready for broader scope.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Bad Push answer:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Let me tell you about the trainwreck that is my department and how every day feels like an emotional hostage situation.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Push should occupy about 20% of your response. It sets context. It does not dominate the narrative.</p><h4>Pull Factors: The Substance</h4><p>Pull factors are where you say:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;Here&#8217;s what attracts me to YOU.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Here&#8217;s why YOU make sense for my growth.&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Here&#8217;s why I want to spend my limited lifespan working with YOUR problems, YOUR culture, YOUR people.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>This should be <strong>80%</strong> of the airtime.</p><p>Why? Because that&#8217;s what they actually asked.</p><h4>The Psychological Leverage of Pull</h4><p>Pull factors do <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-13775-004">three powerful things</a>.</p><ol><li><p><strong>Validate the interviewer&#8217;s identity</strong> (&#8220;You made a good life choice joining this place.&#8221;)</p></li><li><p><strong>Demonstrate commitment</strong> (&#8220;I&#8217;m here for the work, not fleeing from chaos.&#8221;)</p></li><li><p><strong>Show fit</strong> (&#8220;I&#8217;d be a good colleague because I like the same toys you do.&#8221;).</p></li></ol><p>Pull factors are how you go from &#8220;candidate&#8221; to <strong>&#8220;future coworker&#8221;</strong> in someone&#8217;s mind.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/ceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188571008?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!KLQk!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fceba22e0-2ded-4d4c-b4b6-1d0d4d76efff_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h3>How to Prepare So You Don&#8217;t Panic</h3><p>Let&#8217;s approach this like a public health issue. Because in a way, it is. Entire industries are suffering from candidates who cannot answer a simple contextual question without drifting into grievance.</p><h4>Step 1: Write Down Your Push Factors</h4><p>Not in your head. <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/259983143">On paper</a>.</p><p>Ask yourself:</p><ul><li><p>Why am I leaving?</p></li><li><p>What about my current role can&#8217;t continue?</p></li><li><p>What have I outgrown?</p></li></ul><p>Be honest.</p><p>Then distill it into one or two calm sentences. If it sounds like a conference keynote fueled by resentment, edit again. You are aiming for controlled and factual.</p><h4>Step 2: Write Down Your Pull Factors</h4><p>This is the star of the show. Examples:</p><ul><li><p>The company&#8217;s growth trajectory</p></li><li><p>The specific problems the team is tackling</p></li><li><p>The stage of product or technology</p></li><li><p>The culture you&#8217;ve observed in research or earlier interviews</p></li><li><p>How the role intersects with your career direction</p></li></ul><p>If your Pull factors include:</p><ul><li><p>Location</p></li><li><p>Salary</p></li><li><p>It&#8217;s a building with oxygen</p></li></ul><p>Delete and try again.</p><h4>Step 3: Update as You Go</h4><p>Every interview reveals more information. </p><ul><li><p>Treat each round as data gathering. </p></li><li><p>Add new Pull factors as you discover them. </p></li><li><p>Subtract false assumptions. </p></li><li><p>Refine your thinking.</p></li></ul><p>That evolving list becomes your North Star.</p><h4>Step 4: Practice the Pivot</h4><p>When they ask:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Why are you here?&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>Your brain will want to rant about the Push side.</p><p>But with rehearsal, you&#8217;ll override it like a calm adult:</p><ol><li><p>Brief Push</p></li><li><p>Smooth pivot</p></li><li><p><strong>80% Pull</strong></p></li></ol><p>You&#8217;ll sound composed, intentional, compelling&#8230; and crucially, not bitter.</p><h4>Step 5: Remember What You Are Selling</h4><p>Everyone is escaping something. Only the good candidates can articulate <strong>why they are arriving somewhere</strong>.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/188571008?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!PIh2!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F58e88fa2-241e-470d-8844-56d9d79d9a0c_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>The collapse that happens around &#8220;Why are you here?&#8221; is the predictable collision of under preparation, negativity bias, and a nervous system that interprets evaluation as mild danger. Add a vague question and a fragile ego, and you get a performance that veers in the wrong direction.</p><p>The solution is almost embarrassingly straightforward.</p><ul><li><p>Know your Push.</p></li><li><p>Feature your Pull.</p></li><li><p>Talk about <strong>them</strong>, not your sorrows.</p></li><li><p>Validate their company.</p></li><li><p>Give them reasons to imagine you as a coworker, not an emotionally evacuated job refugee.</p></li></ul><p>When you center your answer on why this role, this team, and this stage of company development align with your trajectory, you give the interviewer something concrete to work with. You make it easy for them to picture you solving problems alongside them.</p><p>Most hiring managers sit through thousands of interviews listening to the same tragic monologues about toxic workplaces. You could be the rare, dazzling anomaly who actually answers the question.</p><p>They asked why you&#8217;re <em>here.</em></p><p>So tell them why you&#8217;re HERE.</p><p>Specifically HERE.</p><p>Not why you&#8217;re sick of THERE.</p><p>If that feels almost too obvious, good. Obvious things executed well are rare.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>At <a href="https://careercandour.com/">Career Candour</a> we work 1:1 with professionals on comprehensive interview preparation. No tricks. No shortcuts. Doesn&#8217;t matter how good you are if interviews aren&#8217;t converting. Want support that treats this seriously? <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leighmckiernon/">DM us</a>.</strong></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[The One Interview Question Candidates Should Always Ask (But Never Do)]]></title><description><![CDATA[The one interview question that exposes real expectations, hidden constraints, and what success actually means once the job starts.]]></description><link>https://careercandour.com/p/best-interview-question-to-ask</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://careercandour.com/p/best-interview-question-to-ask</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh McKiernon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2026 23:02:24 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Iy9y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F4e9465e7-41a7-4b58-a44b-08eae262e024_1792x1024.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div 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The job description was written years ago, edited by several people who no longer work there, and approved by Legal after removing anything too specific in case someone sues.</p><p>And then, just when you think the ordeal is nearly over, the interviewer smiles warmly and says:</p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;So&#8230; do you have any questions for us?&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>At this exact moment, your brain, having spent 45 minutes describing your skills and achievements, suddenly forgets what a question even is.</p><p>But there is a way out.</p><p>There exists one question, simple and disarmingly reasonable, that cuts through the theater entirely: </p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;What does success look like in this role in the first 3, 6, or 12 months?&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>So today, we&#8217;re doing a full, borderline academic breakdown of why this question works, why companies never answer it until you force them to, and what other questions you should keep in your arsenal so you never again end an interview with:</p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;Uh&#8230; no, I think you covered everything.&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><div><hr></div><div class="subscription-widget-wrap-editor" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe&quot;,&quot;language&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}" data-component-name="SubscribeWidgetToDOM"><div class="subscription-widget show-subscribe"><div class="preamble"><p class="cta-caption">Career Candour is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber.</p></div><form class="subscription-widget-subscribe"><input type="email" class="email-input" name="email" placeholder="Type your email&#8230;" tabindex="-1"><input type="submit" class="button primary" value="Subscribe"><div class="fake-input-wrapper"><div class="fake-input"></div><div class="fake-button"></div></div></form></div></div><div><hr></div><h2>The Golden Question and Why It Works</h2><p>So why is &#8220;What does success look like in the first 3, 6, or 12 months?&#8221; the undisputed king of post-interview questions? </p><h4>1. It forces the company to remember that jobs have outcomes.</h4><p>This is an audacious move. You are asking what the job is actually meant to produce. Most job descriptions prefer to discuss &#8220;key responsibilities,&#8221; which always include:</p><ul><li><p>&#8220;Collaborating with stakeholders,&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Driving alignment,&#8221;</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Managing priorities,&#8221; and</p></li><li><p>&#8220;Being passionate about innovation or whatever our CEO just discovered on LinkedIn.&#8221;</p></li></ul><p>But ask them what success looks like, and suddenly they must produce an actual <em>deliverable</em>.</p><p>A measurable one.</p><p>Something resembling reality.</p><p>This is not just common sense. Decades of research in organizational psychology show that specific, <strong><a href="https://www-2.rotman.utoronto.ca/facbios/file/09%20-%20Locke%20&amp;%20Latham%202002%20AP.pdf">time-bound goals improve performance far more than vague encouragements to &#8220;do your best.&#8221;</a></strong></p><p>Which means asking this question makes you appear:</p><ul><li><p>smart,</p></li><li><p>strategic,</p></li><li><p>motivated,</p></li><li><p>and suspiciously well-adjusted.</p></li></ul><h4>2. The interviewer probably has not thought about this either.</h4><p>Their answer will reveal one of three things:</p><ul><li><p><strong>A clear, thoughtful roadmap</strong><br>&#8594; Great, you&#8217;ve found a functional team.</p></li><li><p><strong>An answer that sounds like they&#8217;re discovering the role as they speak</strong><br>&#8594; Proceed with caution.</p></li><li><p><strong>Panic behind the eyes</strong><br>&#8594; You may be the fourth person they&#8217;ve hired into this role in two years.</p></li></ul><p>This question isn&#8217;t just for them. You are gathering intelligence. </p><p>It&#8217;s reconnaissance.</p><h4>3. It shows confidence without desperation.</h4><p>Most candidates sound like they are asking for permission to be there. This question does the opposite. It assumes the possibility of success without presuming the outcome. You are not asking if you will get the job. You are asking what winning looks like.</p><p>Hiring managers adore this.<br>It is the polite corporate equivalent of saying:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;If you hire me, I&#8217;ll actually do the job instead of warming a chair.&#8221;</p></blockquote><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43325,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/187707369?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!0FUS!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F501c968f-6a23-4010-90c9-71cd7058e214_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>Asking About What Gets in the Way</h2><p>After they describe their shiny, idealized vision of success, you ask:</p><blockquote><p><strong>&#8220;What tends to get in the way of people achieving that?&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>This is where the real data comes out. The stuff they didn&#8217;t put in the job description, because apparently honesty lowers applicant volume.</p><h4>1. It forces the confession of inconvenient truths.</h4><p>This question has an almost magical ability to surface the things everyone knows but nobody writes down. </p><ul><li><p>Bureaucracy. </p></li><li><p>Politics. </p></li><li><p>Chronic under-resourcing. </p></li><li><p>Competing priorities. </p></li><li><p>Teams that are technically aligned but emotionally hostile. </p></li><li><p>Timelines that exist only because someone promised them in a meeting they do not attend anymore.</p></li></ul><p>Sometimes you will hear about systems that cannot be changed, stakeholders who cannot be ignored, or dependencies that are always &#8220;almost ready.&#8221; Sometimes you will hear nothing explicit, but the hesitation alone tells you what you need to know.</p><p>Companies love to advertise their &#8220;fast-paced environment,&#8221; which is usually code for the absence of process combined with a strong belief in optimism.</p><p>But <strong>obstacles</strong>? That&#8217;s the real story.</p><h4>2. It demonstrates risk literacy, which reads as maturity.</h4><ul><li><p>Smart candidates think about obstacles.</p></li><li><p>Smart hires reduce them.</p></li><li><p>Interviewers recognize this instantly.</p></li></ul><p>Research on interview validity consistently shows that <a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1994-31607-001">job-related, situational questions are far better predictors of performance than unstructured, conversational interviews</a>. When you ask about obstacles, you are, in essence, forcing them into a structured interview whether they meant to or not.</p><h4>3. It creates a natural opening for competence.</h4><p>Once an obstacle is named, you are invited to respond. You say something like:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Interesting. I&#8217;ve actually worked through something similar in my last role by&#8230;&#8221;</p></blockquote><p>And suddenly you are not a candidate. You&#8217;re </p><ul><li><p>A consultant.</p></li><li><p>A strategist.</p></li><li><p>A problem-solver.</p></li><li><p>A future colleague.</p></li></ul><p>If interviewers could legally hire you on the spot, they probably would.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/187707369?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>A Few Other Questions Worth Asking</h2><p>While the Golden Question does most of the heavy lifting, you should always have a couple more elegant tools in the toolbelt.</p><p>Not ten. Not eighteen. Just a couple..</p><h4>1. &#8220;What do your strongest performers here typically do differently?&#8221;</h4><p>Translation:</p><p><em>&#8220;What&#8217;s the cheat code to being excellent in this environment?&#8221;</em></p><p>Listen carefully to the answer. Are top performers described as: </p><ul><li><p>Collaborative or independent. </p></li><li><p>Fast or meticulous. </p></li><li><p>Loud or quietly effective. </p></li></ul><p>The words they choose expose cultural norms. You are learning how the organization really works, not how it describes itself.</p><h4>2. &#8220;How does this team define progress when goals are uncertain or changing?&#8221;</h4><p>This is especially powerful in tech, startups, government, or anywhere a meeting could have been an email.</p><p>Strong answers reference communication, alignment, and decision-making. Weak answers drift toward effort, responsiveness, or working longer hours. </p><h4>3. &#8220;If I were to join, what would my biggest challenge be in the first 90 days?&#8221;</h4><p>An absolute classic. </p><p>It gives the interviewer permission to be honest while giving you insight into the learning curve. If the challenge matches something you&#8217;ve handled before, you can say so without forcing it.</p><h4>4. &#8220;What does your team wish leadership understood better?&#8221;</h4><p>This question should be used with care.</p><p>If they answer candidly, fantastic.</p><p>If they dodge, well&#8230; that&#8217;s also fantastic, because now you know exactly what you&#8217;d be walking into.</p><p>These questions reposition you. You are no longer just being assessed. You are assessing. The interviewer will feel that shift, even if they cannot articulate why.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png" width="1310" height="294" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:294,&quot;width&quot;:1310,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:42328,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://buymeacoffee.com/leighmckie&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/187707369?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!qvGO!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F6614cfd6-f8f5-40f8-8f99-343e29601c98_1310x294.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><h2>How Interviews Actually Work</h2><p>To understand why these questions are so effective, you have to zoom out and acknowledge a slightly awkward reality: the modern job interview is a loosely choreographed performance in which everyone is improvising and pretending this is fine.</p><h4>1. Everyone is bluffing.</h4><ul><li><p>Candidates pretend to know everything about the job.</p></li><li><p>Interviewers pretend to know everything about people.</p></li><li><p>HR pretends the process is neutral, standardized, and fair.</p></li></ul><p>None of these things are true.. It is simply <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/everyone-lying-nothing-matters-welcome-modern-job-market-mckiernon-0pibc">how the system has evolved</a></strong>. But it does mean that much of what happens in interviews is performative rather than diagnostic.</p><h4>2. Job descriptions are often fiction.</h4><p>Research on job&#8211;person fit shows that <strong><a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-05063-001">misalignment between expectations and reality causes early turnover</a></strong>.</p><p>But do companies fix job descriptions?</p><p>Of course not!</p><p>They do what they do best:</p><p><em>copy-paste last year&#8217;s description and hope nobody notices.</em></p><h4>3. Most interviews are unstructured.</h4><p>Meta-analyses show (and this is real) that:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Structured interviews predict job performance far more reliably</strong></p></li><li><p><strong>Unstructured interviews largely predict whether the interviewer thinks you&#8217;re &#8220;cool&#8221;</strong></p></li></ul><p>When you ask <strong>success-focused questions</strong>, you are forcibly injecting structure, accountability, and actual job relevance into a process that is often powered by soft skills, small talk, and the hiring manager&#8217;s mood that day.</p><h4>4. These questions change how you are perceived.</h4><p>Managers don&#8217;t hire candidates.</p><p>Managers hire <strong>future coworkers they trust not to make their lives harder</strong>.</p><p>Asking high-caliber, strategic questions immediately slots you into the category of:</p><blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Oh thank God, someone who actually gets it.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote><p>Which is half the battle.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2" target="_blank" href="https://stratex.asia/" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png" width="1344" height="256" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/b0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:256,&quot;width&quot;:1344,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:100291,&quot;alt&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:&quot;https://stratex.asia/&quot;,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://careercandour.com/i/187707369?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" title="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b4Wb!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb0165253-0e4e-40a1-b742-26f9c4c38199_1344x256.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div></div></div></a></figure></div><p>If you take nothing else from this article, nothing about organizational psychology, impression management, or the absurdity of modern hiring, take this one habit with you:</p><blockquote><p><strong>Always, always, ALWAYS ask:<br>&#8220;What does success look like in this role in the first 3 / 6 / 12 months?&#8221;</strong></p></blockquote><p>This question is universal, disarming, clarifying, and relentlessly practical. It is almost never answered proactively during the interview process, which is precisely why it matters.</p><p>The question strikes the perfect balance:</p><ul><li><p>Confident without arrogance.</p></li><li><p>Curious without being needy.</p></li><li><p>Smart without showing off</p></li><li><p>Strategic without sounding like a LinkedIn influencer</p></li></ul><p>And since <strong><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/yes-you-still-have-practice-interviews-even-youre-leigh-mckiernon-usphc">interviewing is a skill most people practice infrequently</a></strong> and under stress, you want a question you can rely on even when your cognitive abilities have temporarily left the building.</p><p>So use the <strong>Golden Question</strong>. Use the follow-up. Use a small handful of supporting questions if you have time. 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